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Tuesday, January 10, 2006

Adderall abuse in college students
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Psychostimulants, including medications used to treat AD/HD, cocaine, and methamphetamine (speed), increase alertness and energy, elevate mood, improve task performance, and decrease fatigue, sleep, and appetite whether someone has AD/HD or not. When used in the typical doses used to treat AD/HD in someone who is healthy (e.g. without cardiac problems) stimulants are relatively safe and usually well-tolerated, and without long-term side effects.

If someone tolerates a couple of cups of coffee or a latte, they will probably tolerate stimulant medications. When used in high doses, especially when snorted or injected creating a rapid increase in brain blood levels, people experience euphoria but also anxiety, an increase in blood pressure and heart rate, insomnia, irritability, sometimes psychotic behavior, and often dependence.

Stimulants have been used for hundreds of years. Plantation owners in South America gave their workers leaves from the coca plant to chew on to increase stamina. During WW II, pilots were given amphetamines to fight fatigue on long missions. Truck drivers often use amphetamines to stay awake for long hours. In the past they were used as diet pills. Today psychostimulants are primarily used to treat narcolepsy and ADHD.

Chronic abuse of amphetamines can lead to physical dependence, and abrupt withdrawal of amphetamines in someone who is dependent is often associated with sedation and decreased energy, an increased appetite and weight gain, and sometimes severe depression and thoughts of suicide.

Medications generally don't create problems when they are taken for their intended use. For example, someone with an anxiety disorder such as panic disorder rarely misuses antianxiety medications such as Valium or Xanax. Someone who is "worried about everything" tends to be worried about medications and tends to take less than, rather than more than, the prescribed dose. People without an anxiety disorder might use Xanax to deal with stress of everyday life in the same way some people use alcohol and marijuana, which often leads to overuse and dependence. The same holds true for amphetamines and other stimulants.

People with ADHD rarely abuse their medication, and don't like feeling overstimulated from too high of a dose any more than they enjoy the jitteriness from too much caffeine. However, people who use amphetamines for the "high," to increase wakefulness and increase stamina, or to decrease appetite, often continue to use these drugs, often need higher and higher doses to achieve the same effects, and develop a drug problem.

Although there have been hundreds of studies involving thousands of subjects on ADHD and stimulants in children and adolescents, there are almost no studies on college students. However, it is not uncommon for students without AD/HD to misuse amphetamines to decrease their need for sleep, to decrease fatigue when studying for exams, and to increase mental alertness. Amphetamines are Class II controlled drugs, and their use by someone without a prescription is considered no different than purchasing cocaine or speed from the streets. A student who gives a few Adderall tablets to a friend, or sells a few tablets from his prescription is considered the same as if he were a drug dealer on the streats.

The question isn't whether a dose of Adderall will help someone without ADHD to have more energy, mental alertness, and stamina to study for exams, but whether the risk is worth the benefits. If it were me, I'd rather have a couple of latte's to stay awake and alert.

Related Topics: Ritalin: Prescriptions Don't Matter for Some
, Dealing with Substance Abuse

Posted by: Richard Sogn, MD at 12:01 AM

105 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

I am having trouble using the site however I do have a question about ADHD medications. My stepson was dx with ADHD at the age of 4, he was not put on concerta at the age of 7, it appeared to be working well and then he developed two vocal tics. His mother decreaed the dose in consultation with her doctor to 27.5mg. The tics have decreased however my stepson has become afraid of robbers breaking into the house and wants to sleep in others beds. He has had wanted to sleep in others beds before the fear of robbers existed. At our house sleeping in our bed is not an option and we rarely have difficulty with this issue. At his mothers house it is an on going issue. My stepsons mother thinks his sleeplessness is related to concerta(he is 11 now) and wants to try him on stratera. This was also suggested by a psychiatrist my stepson saw. Do either concerta or stratera cause psychotic symptoms or phobias?

Thanks

Amanda

Jan 15, 2006 10:00:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

i have much experience concerning adhd and medications, however i was in my 40's before being diagnosed. please work closely with your doctors and work closely with your child. i have detoxed of concerta and now i am fine, however it takes alot of work.. proceed with caution

Jan 16, 2006 9:51:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hello
I have recently read a book called The Slow Poisoning Of America, it was rather interesting in the matters of ADHD,AUTISM,OBESITY,BREAST AND PROSTATE CANCER. It also covers the posible cause of autism and ADHD. I highly sugest any one with am ADHD child or family member to check out this book, it has been a real eye opener

Apr 5, 2006 3:20:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hello, my 11 year old son has been on 36mg of concerta for 6 months and it has had a positive effect on his focus, attention, hyperactivity and personality. The problem is now we are seeing the weight loss, and he is so skinny and frail looking now, it's just not good. He has also developed a tick with his eyes and he has trouble falling asleep, all the common side effects. Can anyone offer an alternative that we may consider to mostly reverse all the weight loss he has had, yet keep him in this more attentive state? Thank you.

May 29, 2006 8:42:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hello,
I have some medical back ground and would like to give my advice. As far as you child and his eating habits are concerned, there are a few options that can be discused with your doctor. I would ask him if he needs a medication adjustment or another med. added. I think if he's prescribed a low dose of some sort of benzodiazapine or just a stomach stimulant he should benefit greatly. It also sound like his metabolism is high(I wish mine was). I don't think you shold worry.... I hope this will help!

Jan 24, 2007 8:40:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

try zypresxa foran appetite and sleep helper per our doctor for our 11 year old

Feb 21, 2007 10:36:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

ive become depedant on some drugs and i believe alot of people have. doctors are basically diagnosing everyone and pouring these pills down our throats. i ask the parents, are we all scientists here? we put trust in these peoples hands to know the drugs and their effects...to better help our children and all our future generations, but whats going on here? parents are being told to give their 5 year olds doeses of 30mg adderall and higher! have you ever taken this drug personally? LEGAL COCAINE. we wonder why our kids are becoming intolerable drug addicts. this is why. we bring the dose up and they move out, no longer under any supervison, to de-tox. someone read this and contact me...
my AIM is FlamablePanties
im serious. dont not do it because my AIM name is stupid.

Mar 5, 2007 9:55:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

how long will the drug ritalin stay in your blood or your system after you stop using it i take 20mg 2times a day and have been on this drug for over three years off and on i would like to try another way of dealing with my chronic fatigue syndrome but would like to have this drug out of my system before i do anything else i have not had a problem coming off the drug in the past but after two or three months i can no longer deal with the fatigue my psychiatrist started me on this drug three years ago at first it was 10mg two times a day as the years have passed by i have had to up the dose to 20mg two times a day as i have in the past three years i come off the drug with my doctors keeping a watchful eye on me but after the two or three months i go back on it with all of my doctors being aware of what is going on i have been told that there are other ways now to be treated for the chronic fatigue and would like to give it a try thank you Dew

Mar 8, 2007 12:23:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

America it is time to wake up. Adderall is ruining your children. Unfortunately doctors are more concerned with making money and keeping the drug companies happy, then the health of our country. When you take these drugs you are no different then someone getting high on cocaine. I am a college student who sees half of the students around me prescribed to Adderall. Something is wrong here, the kids don't have normal human emotions, they are robots. I have been diagnosed with ADHD but have refused drugs. Instead I use a combination of meditation and hard work. Adderall is a complete shortcut; it is a drug that threatens to destroy our youth. The unfortunate part is not enough people know how harmful it is and soon this will be slapping America in the face. I dread thinking about the drug addict kids of my generation and younger controlling the country. I close by saying wake up America, Adderall is not the solution, better ways exist and if you don't exhaust all possible outlets before trying drugs you are not only a cheater, but a future risk on development of our world.

Mar 22, 2007 8:06:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It's amazing that some people can't get past their political biases against using controlled substances. Obviously, abuse among these drugs is a problem. It will happen, though, whether abusers get it from their doctors or buy it from their friends. Leave the real science to the experts and keep the philosophizing to yourself. This website is here to help understand a medication, not scare people from using a drug that can seriously affect their lives, positively or negatively.

Apr 11, 2007 2:50:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

ATTENTION AMERICA! i am currently attending high school. half of the students attending my school take some sort of ADD medication. whereas years ago there was no such thing as ADHD i think most people would rather put their kids on meds than actually deal with the fact that all kids will be hyperactive at some time or another. i was a hyper kid, my brother is, my sister is. we don't need drugs! PS my brother is 10 my sister is 4. there are better ways than pharmaceuticals. if you cant see that, than you are as ignorant as all americans. thank you for paying attention to a high schooler who denied his doctor the right to prescribe ADHD meds and is focused enough to sit through 9 hours of school without taking pills like a crackhead.

May 1, 2007 11:09:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Being a college student who is currently prescribed to Adderall and having taken it before, I feel I can provide some good information. In regards to the title, abuse in college students, and experiencing it first hand and seeing what it does to others, I feel that there are two ways to look at it. Yes, I could probably say that from what I have seen, Adderall is the most abused prescription drug on my campus. I've seen kids drop as much as $40 on five pills and $20 for one, it is a little ridiculous at times. But I have also seen what it can do for someone with AD/HD like myself. I used to take Straterra before but once I made the switch to Adderall I realized it is a very useful tool for someone like me. While studying during finals I was able to sit and concentrate for amounts of time that were unfathomable before and getting scores on tests that contrasted any previous. But again there are people who abuse the drug to an extreme. My roommate at one time snorted four 30mg pills at once and lived to talk about it, while I can't orally take more than one 15mg pill myself. But I noticed he became very dependent on the drug. People began "loosing" their prescription bottles mysteriously and that was something I never understood. I don't look forward to taking my medication at all, and I will never understand why someone would take so many for fun. As for there being no college studies, I hope I brought some valuable information to the table. And please post a response to this!

May 2, 2007 4:14:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'm a college student as well that is proscribed Adderall and I agree and disagree with the previous posted comment. I did not learn I had AD/HD till my sophomore year of college, but I have lived with this problem all my life though. I may have a different perspective for some people. I take 20mg's of Adderall and an supposed to take 1 to 2 pills daily, but because of my school, work, and football schedule i find myself taking anywhere from 4 to 6 of these pills a day. Not because I like to but because when the pills begin to wear down I feel my AD/HD symptoms more intense and catch myself being lazier then ever and sleepy, regardless of how much sleep I have got the night before. The positives of the drug are undeniable, but I question myself many times if it's really worth it. I have come across a very interesting book that has opened my eyes to the natural remedies to help treat AD/HD. The book is called, Prescriptions for Nutritional Healing Fourth Edition by Phyllis A. Balch, CNC. It gives a detailed layout for herbal and dietary remedies to deal with the problem rather then using drugs. I highly recommend everyone to look into this, I found the book at my local GNC but I am sure you can find it at any book store or health food store. The section can be found on page 229 of the book. I plan on giving it a try over the summer to test how well it works, and strongly suggest that you do the same. I am feed up with the side effects I have to deal with when taking Adderall, mainly the headaches, stomachaches, and sometimes even depression that goes along with it. Please if anyone else is having these problems there is bound be be other ways to deal with it. If anyone out there has tried natural remedies please let me know how it worked for you and any other info would be much appreciated.
Thank you,
Jim Holmes

May 8, 2007 12:23:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'm an honors college student who abuses adderall. I am not prescribed it. In my drug experience, it's the equivalent of cocaine, without the social stigma. I'm waiting for social awareness of Adderrall abuse to leak out; I'm convinced that physicians would seriously reconsider its easily obtainable prescription. If you have a child, consider researching alternatives to psycho-pharmaceuticals. I'm 21 and I seriously wonder what long term effects take place on 6 years olds prescribed any more than 10mg. (Or adults prescribed over 20 mg, for that matter.)

May 15, 2007 6:55:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I would love to hear a physicians perspective. I have 20 year old twins who both suffer from suffer from depression. One I think may also be manic. It is unbearable living with these young men and while I am tempted to try and get them a prescriptive drug, I am also afraid of negative side effects.HOwever, if there is something out there that will help them have a better quality of life i am all for it.

May 18, 2007 10:14:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I too strongly believe Adderall is ruining our children! Giving your child SPEED is not the answer to thier problems! My friends son is on 35 mg a day and he is only 8 and hates it, she has to force him to take it! Thats sad! Find a healthy program to put these children in instead of shoving drugs down their throats everyday! Lets get real and teach our children healthy ways to deal with their problems instead of throwing a pill at them!!!!!

Jun 2, 2007 3:33:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You may think Adderall is ruining our children (such drama!!!!!) but the opposite is true in many, many cases.

I have never "thrown a pill" at any condition my children have, and I never will. With that said, I have made intelligent informed choices to go ahead with medication when it was clearly best for them.

All of this absolutism is hogwash. Some need meds; others don't. Some respond; others don't. If you're informed you know this.

Medication decisions are not emotional. They're rational, based on learning about the condition and the medication, the upside and the downside, and then making a rational decision rooted in the desire to do what's best for your child, not 'feelings' that they're being 'ruined'.

Less hype and more learning would be a good thing.

Jun 3, 2007 7:35:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Adderall was prescribed for me..it's effects wore off the longer I took it.Now I have lost my job and can't afford the 300.dollar price tag.Any one know of any natural remedies or supplements.....and please don't suggest coffee,I was weaned on that
Frank

Jun 19, 2007 6:01:00 PM  
Blogger byron said...

I am a college student who wished I was on Adderall or Concerta/Ritalin. I suffer from excessive daytime sleepiness, only helped somewhat by many naps during the day. I wish I weren't this way, but I can't help it. I will sleep 10-12 hours, yet still feel that pangs of sleep attacks during the day. I don't think I have sleep apnea.

I am a B student, and I attribute that to my sleep problem. I will fall asleep in less than 30 sec when I lay down and even fall asleep during sex to my husband's dismay. I can't stay awake longer than 20 minutes to read my textbooks. I don't want to be on medications, which will incapacitate me further down the line. Freud's cocaine abuse did not end up a happy ending, the "elixir" drug he thought he was on. Aahhh, the troubles we bear.

Jun 27, 2007 12:26:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

For what its worth, I was put on ritalin when I was 12. Afterwards, I developed a vocal tick much like a hiccup and discontinued all use of the drug. Though it has reduced in frequency and intensity, I still have the same vocal tick today. I am 22 years old. I, like others, have learned coping strategies on my own that don't involve drug therapy. I recently graduated cum laude from a major university. I've become better at hiding my tick or passing it off as some sort of strange hiccup and have lived a fairly average and happy life despite it. Your children can too. As parents, I imagine it must be like torture to see your children suffer. But they are still young and you may be amazed at just how resilient they can be.

Aug 6, 2007 4:55:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"...abrupt withdrawal of amphetamines weight gain, and sometimes severe depression and thoughts of suicide."

Pardon my ignorance, but my comment will be of no use if the dates of all previous comments are from 1/2006. My calendar reads 9/16/07. If most recent comments are as they suggest; that is, within the past 48 hours, I'd be happy to include additional submissions, from both the point of view of a medical doctor, and a patient. Please advise.

Sep 15, 2007 3:13:00 PM  
Blogger WebMD Blog Admin said...

To anonymous above:

Comments posted here range in dates from January, 2006 to the present day. This post is visited often by people seeking information about Adderall use and abuse. Dr. Sogn's message board is the area where he answers questions personally.

Regards,

WebMD Blog Admin

Sep 15, 2007 6:23:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

As many of you have all ready noted and the most common thing i have noticed is many of us are college students. While being a college student myself i understand the difficulties we face, long nights with no sleep, countless hours of intense studying, immense work loads, jobs, the list could go on and on. College i believe is the hardest thing one can do... This brings me to my point... for those of us that do not have trouble studying, staying away, paying attention, etc. it is easy for us to criticize those who are less fortunate and choose alternate methods to improve these areas. However, I'm not saying using adderall is nor am i saying it is not ok... Although, i am strongly opposed to it in young children. I believe the excessive amounts of energy our young people have can be blamed on play stations, computers and not enough time outdoors. Children are still developing and much of these problems can be controlled by diet, exercise, and simply interacting with our younger generation. On a closing note, anything used for reason other than its intended purpose can potentially be harmful. Whether it be the improper use of prescription drugs or the improper use of an automobile.

Sep 24, 2007 7:43:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

To start off, I am a 26 y/o male who just overcame an addiction to adderall, even thought I do not have ADHD. I was taking 180+ mg a day, that is over 6 30mg pills a day. Since I was only prescribed 60 of these a month, I did the most damage to my body by taking large doses the first half of the month, then taking none the second half of the month while waiting for my prescription to become available again. I now suffer severe digestive/liver problems. My concern with this drug is even though its a Class II narcotic and can cause serious damage, doctors seem so unreluctant when prescribing it. I simply had to tell a few lies, take a bogus written test and bam, I got the drug. Parents beware of this, especially XR version.

Oct 17, 2007 2:53:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I am currently a senior college student at a major university and while I'm not prescribed adderoll (yet) I do take it for studying for test. I do not abuse it and I have not felt any of the side effects I read amongst the post I've read. I started my freshmen through my fall semester sophomore year with a GPA of a modest 2.7. After my friend gave me one of his adderolls (20mg XR) I found a significant change in focus and alertness. I am probably one of the biggest procrastinators in the world and used to get distracted by something as simple as a poster on the wall. Now with the help of adderoll I can easily sit and read half a text book in one sitting and thus drastically increased my grades. Since taking the occasional adderoll for test I have had three straight semesters of 3.93 or higher. I only wonder what my grades would have been like had I discovered adderoll sooner. Adderoll has drastically improved my life and credit it for my excellent job I just received at one of the big three accounting firms in the country. Thank you adderoll!

The trick is not being a moron when taking it and only take what you know you can handle.

Oct 19, 2007 1:17:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

To Anonymous above,

Your comment is harmful to those of us who have gone to the trouble (and expense) of being diagnosed.

If you have ADHD, get the diagnosis and get your medications legally. But quit buying them from friends (and to the friend -- QUIT SELLING THEM), because you're creating a situation where people who really do need these will not be able to get them without being treated like a criminal.

Seriously, maybe you really do have ADHD. And then again, maybe not. But if you don't actually go and get a diagnosis and continue to abuse these medications, you will cause trouble for you, and for those who actually use it as prescribed.

Oct 19, 2007 5:31:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I was looking for information about the usual dose range for Adults with ADD (distractability type)and I stumbled upon these comments. I am a 50-something year old nurse who struggled for years with ADD before being diagnosed in my 40's. I resisted being placed any schedule drugs for many years afterward. Finally, I took my Dr's advise and started taking Adderall about a year ago. What a difference! I am much more organized at work and am able to get my work done with a minimum of stress. I have only experienced positive changes.

On the flip side, as a nurse, I have seen people struggle with addiction. I think that parents and adults who are trying to find answers for coping with real problems and real disorders of attention need to educate themselves about these disorders and their signs and symptoms. Coping stratigies are important to use, even with medications. There are many good self help books available to help with learning both.

Persons with signs and symptoms really do need to get an evaluation by a psychologist or practitioner to verify the actual presence of the disorder. Preferably, this would be someone who specializes in the disorder.

Lastly but equally as important, find an MD or other Personal Care Practitioner who is knowledgable about this disorder, responsive to concerns and who allows and encourages participation by the patient and family in the plan of treatment.

Whereas I believe that some cases of mild ADD can be managed with behavioral stratagies, I think medications are useful and even necessary in some cases. Each individual needs to do what works best for him/her.

Conversely, if someone has serious enough side effects or takes stimulants without educating themselves and without a prescription and who is not under the care of a skilled practitioner runs the risk of addition and/or serious and possibly fatal effects. NO ONE should EVER self diagnose or take these drugs without skilled medical supervision.

Please note I said "skilled". I do think that some parents and even some practitioners may want a quick behavioral "fix". Some adults may think they can handle a drug for short periods to help them keep awake to study and keep up with other activities. The key is this: if a person really has this disorder, these medications can help. This is because there is an actual chemical imbalance in the brain for the drugs to act upon.

If the disorder is NOT present, the person can and will become addicted if stimulants are used long enough. Long term addiction to any amphetamine is very difficult to treat and has horrible consequences. Never use these drugs or allow them to be given to your child without appropriate testing and diagnosis.

Oct 23, 2007 12:35:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I am a 42 year old Mom of 3,(happily married for 18 years) full time teacher at a middle school and full time college student w/ 12 weeks left to finish my Master's Degree. (current gpa=4.0) I was in a serious car accident when I was 16. I rolled down a cliff in a truck and had to be rescued by Marine Corps Helicopter, etc. A friend died, another was very seriously damaged. Our accident received major attention from the media. My issue was TBI (Traumatic Brain Injury). At the time (1981) there was no MRI, CT, blah blah blah..I just "healed." I graduated from high school w/ a 3.37 gpa but struggled thru college. I graduated with a bachelor's degree but it took me over 6 years. I became a professional then a stay at home mom until 2 years ago when I was offered a job as an art teacher at the public school I now work at. I had to jump back in to school to get my teaching credential while I started a full time job.(I was not taking Adderall for this first year and a half of my new job and full time college) I was offered a great opportunity to get my Master's at the same time and I took it. Here is the Adderall connection: I have struggled with lack of focus and mild depression since my accident. I had tried all the SSRI's but nothing really did anything until the day I tried Adderall 6 mos. ago. I felt like a human again! I take 30mg XR/day. I do not ever want to take more, I just feel so happy and "normal" all the time now. I sleep like a baby at night. I wake up happy. I have taken this dose for 6 months. In a way I feel "hooked" because I don't want to go back to the old "frontal lobe damaged" person. Thank God for the discovery of this drug. It has saved me. Some of the posts I have read scare me, but I do not feel like I am taking amphetamines or cocaine. I just feel at peace finally. I think it is people like me that have had a severe altercation in the production of norepinephrine and dopamine due to brain injury that benefit from Adderall.

Nov 21, 2007 1:00:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I am 35 years old and had been taking adderall-30 mg(in addition to lexapro for depression)for over a year until about 3 months ago. My doctor decided that it was giving me "tics" and took me off it and switched to provigil to keep me awake during the day. When that didn't work we tryed cymbalta, now it's focalin+lexapro.

Since being taken off of adderall I haven't been the same person. I am severly depressed and have even had a couple of episodes where I am so angry I would rather beat somebody up than look at them and I am not like that at all. I'm normally very passive. I haven't had thoughts of suicide but rather thoughts that me being in this world doesn't make a positive difference so I guess that's almost the same thing.

I am not happy about anything anymore and have zero motivation to do anything-that includes house work. I clean only what I need to have for work and keep very little food in the house because I don't cook anything either. Everything seems to be caving in around me. I am completely anti-social and if I have to be in a social situation it takes me at least a day by myself of just sitting around and watching tv to get over it.

I loved my adderall everyday. It kept me going and able to concentrate-productive at work, etc. but if this is what happens when you try to get off of it I think it's a terrible drug. The symptoms I have are parallel to meth addicts who are trying to get clean-the only difference is that my drug was prescribed, not manufactured in someone's basement.

If anybody out there has had similar symptoms or struggles with getting off adderall please email me at moefureal@aol.com. I have just recently started thinking that my symptoms were from withdrawal-before that I just thought I was crazy.

Nov 27, 2007 2:25:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I have a four year old wh will turn five in may. I have decide to hold her back from starting school until she i six. She is not at the level that she should be. She is VERY hyper and can not sit at one active for more than 30 sec at a time. she goes to a wonderful pre-school, that all of my children have attended. I trust her teacher greatly, I have known herfor twenty years and she is a great teacher. My child has disrupted her class so much by her activities that she having a hard time teaching. She is the same way at home jumping from one thing to another all the time. se is not asked to do things that can't do but she is trying everyone out that she comes in contact with. she tells on the othr student all the time , she can't play in groups, she hits and does really care what the punishment might be. I hav three other children that range from 11 to 4 and my 11 year boy has the form of ADD and he wears a patch and loves school he has straight A's. he's not hyper and does not wear the patch over the weekend. But my four old has driven us crazy. We can't reason with her or even take her to church without the teacher comming to get us because she up jumping from on thing to the next. she has put a stain on the teacher so much I'm afraid thatthey will ask her not to come back any time now. Don't get me wrong she a very loving child but out of control. I was told theirs nothing to do for her until she is five. I need help now. We have stoped most of our outings because she his so hard to control and the fits she throws makes our outings nt worth it. We are a good christian family but at a lost. If any body has any info that could help please responed.

Nov 29, 2007 8:00:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I think this is a wonder drug. I know for a drug it sounds horrible to classify it as such. I am moderately adhd and it becomes very difficult when i need to study and memorize a long speech for a college class. During these few and long periods of time it can be almost impossible to focus for the necessary amount of time. Often before an exam Lattes just don't do the trick when you need to sit still and not be all jittery.

Dec 9, 2007 8:58:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

To the mother of the 5 year old soon to be six, try giving your child coffee that is 1/2 coffee and 1/2 milk with some sugar for taste, before heading off to school. Try it first on a weekend day to see if it helps and how long it lasts. This helped my brother when he was younger and bouncing off the walls. He is 37 now and survive being hyper w/o drugs.

Dec 11, 2007 6:43:00 PM  
Blogger StudentofEarth said...

Throughout my education (I'm a junior in college studying Wildlife Biology now) I always struggled with readings for school. I could never sit still and concentrate. And when I finally did my mind would wonder for hours before I could find any success in reading. The same goes for writing papers. I took challenging classes and many literary writings were required of me. My sophomore year of college I wrote over 70 papers ranging from lab reports to speeches and everything in between. I recently wrote a ten page research paper which should have taken me a solid day of research and writing, but ended up taking me over six days of endless working. My issue was that I was unable to focus on the assignment. It required a lot of reading and editing, and my mind would wonder more than half the time. I was very aware of my trouble focusing, and I see the same happening to a few of my peers throughout school. However there are many students who are very able to sit and finish their work, getting it done in a timely manner, getting great grades, and having more time to spend on other subjects and social activities. So do I go to my doctor and ask to be tested for ADD? No, because I can’t. College students abuse Adderall to a high extent. Some high school students also use Adderall without prescription to help them focus. Fights against the drug in academics align with fights against steroid use in athletes- saying the advantage it gives you makes it cheating. This is bogus. Students who use Adderall are overworked, overstressed, and are completely aware of their difficulties in keeping on top of their studies. The abuse of Adderall as a stimulant is no different than the abuse of any other drug, such as alcohol. A little can often go a long way. A drink at dinner is completely acceptable, or a small drink at a party or gathering. It is the amount and frequency that causes Adderall to be so highly controversial. I feel, and am supported by many students, that the amount of work given to us in college and in school in general has increased to an amount that is often unimaginable. The pressures on us to get into graduate schools, honors clubs, and keeping our grades up to make our parents proud and often- to achieve our educational goals make us stressed and tired. We turn to alcohol because it is a quick way to get away from the stress of school. We also gain weight in college. This can be blamed on the poor food choices of students who are not under feeding supervision of their parents, but the real cause is that we are so overwhelmed by the intensity of our coursework that we can not over-think our food choices. When I was in middle school I could tell you the meals I had eaten weeks before. Now I am lucky if I remember what I had for lunch.
Adderall is a stimulating drug which is prescribed by doctors who attended 8-10 years of college education, passed impossible sets of exams, and obtained their titles under the highest amount of pressures. They however, do not know your specific needs, or the exact needs of your child. Their decisions for your children are to be respected, but there is no one telling you that you can not question the amount, or the combination, or the brand. Trust your doctors choices for your children and for you- then observe the effects of the Adderall, or any other drug on your body. If you feel like less dosage would work- TALK TO YOUR DOCTOR. They will listen to you because that is how they work!
For college students, the negative connection between Adderall use and school work is a stereotype that only those who do not abuse the drug can understand. I personally have not been tested for ADD, but find a single 15-20mg Adderall pill taken half an hour before studying in stressful times to be extremely effective. There is no reason that this should be though of as cheating. Some students are not capable of concentrating on extended amounts of reading and writing, or whatever it may be. Adderall, as I said before- is a medical gift because it is able to combat ADD and ADHD symptoms in millions of people. It also happens to help reduce stress, problems with focusing, and even depression. There has been a lot of research done on the effects of Adderall on the body, and like EVERY OTHER DRUG INCLUDING CAFFIENE, when taken in excess, or in times when it is not needed it can be very dangerous and addictive. So a word to those of you who are convinced that Adderall is a drug comparable to cocaine (aren’t caffeine and sugar short term stimulants too?)- smaller, infrequent uses of a drug such as Adderall are proven to be successful aids in keeping focused with the recent increase in work loads in our schools and universities. Adderall is a drug which is commonly prescribed for learning challenges known as ADD and ADHD, but has also been known to work very well for minor depression, high amounts of stress, and general concentration problems. The negative issues behind the amount of Adderall obtained illegally by those who do not have prescriptions does not even compare to the amount of underage teens getting alcohol from over 21 sources, or the amount of ADULTS over 21 who admit to drinking and driving regularly.
To sum up this opinion- 1. Adderall is a very successful, highly researched drug. 2. It is administered by Doctors who are highly educated- and well aware of the effects of the drug. 3. Adderall can be used in any amount under the amount suggested by your doctor. Try starting with smaller doses, or ask for the smallest dose possible. 4. Personally observe the effects of Adderall. If giving it to your children- try it first! It is the type of drug that can be used by almost anyone without heart problems, so give it a try before you give it to a child half your size. 5. Accept the fact of pharmaceuticals- many have the ability to solve different forms of problems within different people at different levels. Take Ibuprofen for example, it can be taken by a majority of people to help with a wide arrange of pain. Coffee helps some people wake up, and allows others to de-stress and relax. Every chemical has different effects on different people. 6. The use of Adderall on college campuses is controversial by those who have little concept or understanding of learning challenges. When you meet someone who 'shuns' Adderall- ask them about where they went to college and what their degree was. A community college, 'six year plan' student with a major in fine arts is not someone to listen to about stress, concentration, or the stress caused from troubles with concentration. Actually, a good idea is to ask your doctor (choose a younger, newer doctor- they still have experience) if they have ever had difficulty concentrating, reading, writing, or finding interest in something. If they are willing to be open and honest with you, ask them if they ever used Adderall to stimulate their concentration skills. I would guess that if you asked any form of PhD or MD degree holder, you would find that they have observed or experienced success for the use of Adderall among those who A. do not abuse it and use it only in extreme measures (like final exams), and B. actually need to use the drug to concentrate from previous experience otherwise. Many Adderall users find the drug only useful when long hours of consistent studying or writing are required, such as during exam times. To rid myself of normal stress I drink green tea, do yoga, exercise regularly, and get as much sleep as possible.
Nevertheless, students in college who have concentration disorders and ADD are often unable to obtain even small amounts of stimulating pharmaceuticals because of the negative stereotype formed by those who abuse them.
Take home message: Adderall is a drug. Period. It has a wide range of both benefits and side effects. It is completely beneficial to those who are PERSONALLY conscious of taking it, and its effects on their bodies. The abuse of its ability to get a 'high' (sharpie markers can do this too...) has given Adderall a negative stereotype for use in College students. Adderall being a form of advantage which is comparable with cheating is an excuse for the misuse of a very broad, successful drug. Adderall is the only actual fast acting, short term drug available which has been proven to assist in concentration while studying, but is, respectively, only obtainable with prescription by a certified medical doctor, and is only prescribed to those people who are sufferers of what is known as ADD and ADHD. Finally, ADD and ADHD are, ironically, more controversial in their diagnoses, than the use of Adderall to treat such defined "disorders".

Dec 11, 2007 9:45:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I need someone to help me clarify adderall a little bit more than about 20 web pages have done so far. I am a college student at a large university, in an extremely difficult major. (mechanical engineering) I am currently a sophomore approaching fall finals with the biggest courseload yet. I have never contemplated using adderall until now. I did well in highschool and I also feel that I am a fairly smart individual, but I know that highschool was easy. For a long time I have questioned whether or not I have ADD or ADHD because of lack of concentration in general. It appears to be worse more so now that I am in college with more distractions and everything else going on. I have researched a little bit on the drug and I have found generally that it is the same as any other drug, and can have serious problems if it is abused. I plan on seeing a doctor during my winter break to do some tests, but I would like to know now anything people have to say about this drug. I have close friends who have serious ADHD that i see struggle with everyday life without it, and that makes me think I dont need it. On the other hand, I can't concentrate for the extended time I need to fulfill my courseload. I feel almost if I tried it, aderall would help me. If I only use it for exams, midterms and finals that is, would I develop an addiction? I have noted that many people take it to pull all nighters. I feel like that is an abuse of the drug. What if it were used on weekends before finals to maximize the day of study, but still be able to sleep at night and not throw off sleep patterns. I have talked to many friends who also do not have ADD or ADHD and have tried it. They have great grades, and they don't seem to abuse the drug. I am not your typical college student but one who stops to think before he takes action. I believe that adderall could help me focus without becoming addicted to it. I believe that I am smart enough to know what would truely do me harm. Im asking anyone who will answer, based on what I have told you, do I seem like someone who needs to have it, or am I someone who thinks it will help them when in fact it really wont? I'm a very healthy individual and I have no medical problems. I just can't sit back and watch my "competition" or fellow classmates, who can concentrate well, beat me out when I work just as hard or even harder than them. I am in a controlled major where only a certain amount of students get in. My classmates are my competition. I want to be on the same level as they are. I wan't to be like my roomates who have great grades and still seem to have social time. Most of all I want to make my parents proud of their first born who is esentially following in the family footsteps. I apologize for ranting but, this is how my brain thinks normally. It is so easy for me to go off on a tangent. I just need some more good opinions from people who dont need adderall, but take it anyways for tests. Ultimately I am going to see a doctor to talk to him / her. For now I just need some second hand information from first hand users to get me started.
Thanks to anyone,
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Dec 16, 2007 3:18:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

anonymous:

Adderall isn't a wonder drug. What you describe doesn't sound like a reason to take Adderall or anything else. By your own description, you're getting the job done without any assistance from medication.

People with ADHD, whether college students or otherwise, don't get the job done. They don't focus, they don't give attention to the details, and they aren't organized. Medication helps with focus and details, but it won't help with organizational skills and other things necessary to do well in school.

From reading your post, it seems to me (and I'm not a doctor or health professional) that you're stressed and stressed some more, which can also affect your performance in school. Why not let go of your need to be at the top and simply do your best? Don't you think your parents will be proud of you for being in college and in such a difficult field as it is?

I'm the parent of an achieving college student and I'm completely proud of him for everything he's done so far and will do. He's not at the top of his field but he's working his hardest and he does have ADHD. He takes Adderall to keep the ADHD at bay, but still has to work just like everyone else for the grades.

Try making an inventory of everything you're accomplishing instead of thinking about taking a medication to force more on yourself. Breathe.

Dec 17, 2007 1:48:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I started adderall xr 30 back in June
of 2007 and it has made all the difference for me. I can focus better
complete tasks on time,do well in school, and not have the constant daytime drowsiness that I had. I was prescribed it by a "quack" he just gave me a questionnaire to fill out and all of the questions that were on it applied to my symptoms so NO I didnt lie about it to get it I answered truthfully and he said that I did have ADD but also my friends cant get it because they're dr tells them they have to go see a psychiatrist, but anyways I feel that if this drug is taken properly then you will have positive outcomes its like with any
drug. I feel more successful now than I ever did in my academic years because of the outcome I mean
getting A's in all the classes youve taken thats unreal so I disagree with Canada and everybody on here that thinks it should be banned because we're making the youth of America become successful in their life. The only problem that I regret is my parents not doing anything about it when I was younger cause I feel like I would've been more productive in my younger years but thats besides the point.

Dec 21, 2007 1:43:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I was diagnosed with AD/HD back in January of '07. I had a terrible time with time management, homework, reading, following directions through to the end, and social setbacks. My doctor gave me a piece of paper that had symptoms of ADHD on it and I too had to answer truthfully to be diagnosed. Since the diagnosis and the application of his prescription, work productivity has increased tenfold.

My dad, on the other hand, had to see a psychiatrist. This was for liability reasons in case the 50 year old had heart failure or extreme blood pressure.

I suggest that anyone who thinks they have AD/HD should not waste their time thinking about getting checked for it. The drugs work great, but the side effects are too much for middle-age to the elderly.

Dec 21, 2007 9:59:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I am a 16 year old highschool student and i can say that adderall has become my biggest problem in school. I smoke and have done other recreational drugs but nothing has compared to the dependence that i have for adderall. I took 7 of the 20 mg adderalls yesterday, had a great day, stayed up all night and then decided today i was not going to take any. i have done nothing but withdraw and feel like crap all day. My chest has hurt, my heart has been beating at 170+ beats per minute and i cant even focus on sitting still. I have become so addicted to this amphetamine that it has taken over my life. It is a serious problem not only in college but high school as well and America must address this issue immediatley.

Dec 21, 2007 10:09:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I take Adderall XR.
For the first couple of weeks I had major dry mouth and felt my skin crawling at random moments. Those side effects went away completely.
I eat healthy (always have) and use mostly organic and holistic products in everything I do.
I am not a pill popper or drug abuser. Aderall XR is the only medicine I take besides daily vitamins.
I agree that as humans we have the capability of abusing everything. Not just adderall. So if we are going to bash the makers of ADHD medications then we need to boycott fatty foods. Obesity is causing the most deaths in America (currently).
I have a wonderful family doctor who doesn't just scribble down any medication.
She carefully listened to me (unknowingly describing myself as ADHD and NOT depressed).
I did have to make an appointment with a therapist for further testing and I am thankful that I went through the proper channels and discovered that I was not depressed like most were saying. I felt unaccomplished due to my ADHD. The therapist that I went to did want me to continue to go and I was frustrated because it seemed to me like they were treating me like some head case and kept wanting further testing and money. Bottom line is I am very careful with prescribed medicines.
Thinking I was growing into severe depression I did try many anti depressants that caused horrible side effects, mostly migraine headaches, the testing for me was a last resort and I am so thankful that I did follow through because for once I don't feel like I just took a pill. I don't feel like I am on speed, and I feel like I'm myself again.
I never took medicines in school. I didn't realize that I had ADHD. I adapted but I struggled with sensory overload constantly.
Now, I am 26 years old, I've been on Adderall XR for 5 months and experience no side effects other than loss of appetite during the day. I am a full time artist/illustrator and grateful for my doctor.
I think it is very important to go through the testing first and be aware of all possible side effects and how they could interact with other meds you are taking...
Blessings,
Bobbie

Dec 22, 2007 10:42:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I am a 20 year old male college student who was diagnosed as having ADHD just over 8 months ago. I have had it all my life, but have never gone to the doctor to be diagnosed. Ive always been a just above average student, not because I'm not smart but because I had trouble concentrating in classes. I would have to say that adderall is a great treatment for ADHD. I took it for about 3 months during my first summer semester. I was able to get all A's in my classes and then some.

The reason I did not continue taking the prescribed adderall is becuase the side effects were beginning to bother me alot. I had a constant need and desire to consume liquids, i had cotton mouth all the time. This leads into the next side-effect. I found that many times I had trouble urinating. I would have the urge to urinate ebout every 30 to 45 minutes (very discouraging during those 3 hour classes). I found that if i tried to "hold it in" when i did finally get to the restroom, it was hard to urinate, almost like my muscles were locked up and would not let the urine out, even though i felt like urinating. This caused great discomfort and sometimes even pain.

People with ADHD are very fun and exciting people whom others enjoy to be around, at least that is the case for me. However another side effect of Adderall is what I can only describe as "dumbing down." I had trouble getting excited about anything, and I do mean anything :( I felt drained of energy even though I was full of it and my heart would beat fast even at rest. I even had an interviewer at a job interview say that i may not be energetic enough ( i did get the job though) to work there. This was odd for me becuase i am usually the most energetic person in the "room."

This medicine was actually able to make me too "normal" and "adult" acting for my tastes. I am still young and I don't plan to settle down now. If this is what you want to obtain by taking adderall, then it is for you. I enjoy being spontaneous and fun, so this side-effect is not something that appeals to me.

This writing is just my personal experience with taking adderall XR, 30mg pill once a day in the morning. I do not condone taking this drug unless you have ADHD. If ADHD is something that doesnt affect you, then dont take adderall, just be less lazy.

I am not currently taking adderall, as i have said before, but due to my falling grades this semester i plan on starting my treatment again but with a smaller dosage. I am a 6'1" 220lb 20 year old male and i feel that 30 mg pills are too much for me. So i just have to say to all those whom give this medicine to children, let them be kids, if you feel the need to give a child under 15 or so, a medicine as powerful as this then try getting your kids in sports or a program which will let them get out all their pent up energy. Drugs are not the answer, considering the developmental stage they are in. I played sports in high school and spent some time in the Military, and I can just say that excercise and proper ADHD education can be, in my opinion, the greatest treatment for ADHD in kids.

Adderall is in my opinion the most stress free way of dealing with ADHD in adults, if you dont mind the side-effects described, then i would strongly suggest seeing a professional to find out how you can start an adderall treatment.

Good luck in your endeavours,

anonymous

Dec 30, 2007 3:15:00 AM  
OpenID tesia0708 said...

I am a freshman college student who was diagnosed with ADHD at a young age it runs in my family and it is severe. I have tried every kind of med for it however the only one that works is adderall. Everyone around me can tell the difference when i am on it. It says not to take it off and on but i disagree because if i didnt take it off and on i would never eat and be smaller then i am right now! I get extremely depressed when i am not on it because i am so frustrated at not being able to focus its horrible its a horrible fealing and those who dont know how it feel aka parents will never understand it Adderall isnt the problem and neither are the doctors who perscribe it its those who abuse it and dont ask there doctors the appropriate way to take it and the different options its your fault Your children cant become drugies because they took adderall they were prescribed unless you as a parent allow them to misuse and abuse it

Jan 2, 2008 10:27:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I have a 21 year old son who was diagnosed with ADHD and prescribed adderall. Because we live on opposite sides of the Country I only see him a few times a year. When I saw my son in November for Thanksgiving, everything was the same. We discussed his final semester and what he would do after he left the university. In December my son returned home after finals and he was a completely different young man. At first I thought he was on drugs such as acid or speed, but I later found out that it was only the adderall that was prescribed to him. After a few days my son appeared to be back to normal; however he still has times that he goes back to that strange stage where he speaks in half sentences, doesn't adhere to a conversation, has random thoughts and does strange things that don't make sense. My son has confessed to smoking pot while coming down from the drug. Could this have caused some sort of long term damage? How long til the effects of adderall subside? Does anyone have a similar experience? I'm contemplating withdrawing him from school. It's a difficult decision knowing that he only has one semester to go.

Jan 23, 2008 7:49:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What happens when Adderall isn't taken the way it is supposed to? I read several of the comments but didn't really find any severe side effects. While reading the description of Adderall I thought I read it can cause symptoms of some sort of mental illness. Has anyone really witnessed this. Those of you taking Adderall, can you take just when you need it or should it be taken on a regular basis as prescribed?

Jan 23, 2008 8:59:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I have a friend who abuses the drug so that he/she can study for tests... I believe that he/she has been taking it in a drug abuse level to achieve that high... Are there any consequences for taking Adderall with out a prescription.?

Jan 28, 2008 8:26:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

back in 2005 when i was deep into drugs, I binged out on adderall and the binge lasted 3 days w/o sleep and involved snorting about 14 crushed 30 mg XR tablets. Yeah...do the math, several hundred miligrams of the stuff in my system. i was fine, i thought until the third day with no sleep and the last one that i took, which at this point the confusion/hallucinations had fully set in. I tried to go for a 15 minute walk, and almost suffered a cardiovascular collapse. I had supraventricular tachychardia alternating with bradychardia and general arrythmias for about 5 hours. Anybody who posits that you can't OD on adderall doesn't know what they're talking about. This drug will kill you dead if you take too much. This was the single most harrowing and frightening event in my 27 years of life, and I must say the closest I've been to death. If I had've eaten one more 30, i probably wouldn't have made it. It stopped me in my tracks, and my heart actually threatened to stop working. I remember later that day going home, and thinking that somehow i had cheated death. I also remember thinking about what my family would have had to endure with my overdosing on drugs. how my obituary would have looked in the City paper. I have kicked the cocaine and stimulants altogether now, but still smoke weed occasionally.

Feb 7, 2008 11:42:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

what a crazy drug. my old doctor, i believe, honestly thought it was the savior for unmotivated college students. in many ways, he was right...but chemicals that make you feel good and study hard are obviously too good to be without equal bad. i've been to rehab for it and i still get it, still take too much, still depend on it. i get great grades and feel good and stuff but i know physically this is not the way to go, it is, as another poster said, a shortcut. if you're a parent, don't give your kids this you will regret it i promise.

Feb 14, 2008 8:49:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

WOW, i am extremely amazed at all the people on this board preaching their scientology psycho babble. I have been taking adderall for over 4 years, and it has brought nothing but great results. If you truly have ADD/ADHD then this is the way to help you achieve success. Yes, there are addicts who abuse this drug, but just realize thats what they are addicts. They will abuse drugs, but dont let that discourage you from trying this out. If you take the medication as prescribed it will do wonders for your concentration, alertness, and overall social interactions.

Feb 15, 2008 5:57:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Let's be honest. Too many of us abuse this substance... and now.. at least I am having heart, stomach, and possibly other severe issues. I am 27 and have abused this monthly since college. Students should be aware that addiction is easy even in the most unpredictable of students and humans for that matter. I worry about dying more than I enjoy living because Adderall perhaps makes us paranoid and blitzed... who knows? Coc was accepted at one point too.... Didn't make it safe.. This is an almost socially acceptable drug which brought me from #1 in my class to someone who can't remember how to spell valedictaorian... Psych should study sleep vs. deprivation. I believe the lack of sleep and loss of memory is more of a blow than the damage caused in one's stomach... but I have no scale here so... your own risk right?

Feb 17, 2008 1:39:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Let's be honest. Too many of us abuse this substance... and now.. at least I am having heart, stomach, and possibly other severe issues. I am 27 and have abused this monthly since college. Students should be aware that addiction is easy even in the most unpredictable of students and humans for that matter. I worry about dying more than I enjoy living because Adderall perhaps makes us paranoid and blitzed... who knows? Coc was accepted at one point too.... Didn't make it safe.. This is an almost socially acceptable drug which brought me from #1 in my class to someone who can't remember how to spell valedictaorian... Psych should study sleep vs. deprivation. I believe the lack of sleep and loss of memory is more of a blow than the damage caused in one's stomach... but I have no scale here so... your own risk right?

Feb 17, 2008 1:40:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Let's be honest. Too many of us abuse this substance... and now.. at least I am having heart, stomach, and possibly other severe issues. I am 27 and have abused this monthly since college. Students should be aware that addiction is easy even in the most unpredictable of students and humans for that matter. I worry about dying more than I enjoy living because Adderall perhaps makes us paranoid and blitzed... who knows? Coc was accepted at one point too.... Didn't make it safe.. This is an almost socially acceptable drug which brought me from #1 in my class to someone who can't remember how to spell valedictaorian... Psych should study sleep vs. deprivation. I believe the lack of sleep and loss of memory is more of a blow than the damage caused in one's stomach... but I have no scale here so... your own risk right?

Feb 17, 2008 1:40:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I wrote the last comment on addiction.. but to be honest.. It's done a lot of good too. Would I give it to my kids. Probably not. But if not, I'd make sure I was there to provide what this drug would... hopefully... it's done a lot of good too... it's a tough straw

Feb 17, 2008 1:48:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

if the drugs are too much for an older person... aren't they just being masked through youth... it's still hitting them the same, just with a nice vail of speed to hide behind.

Feb 17, 2008 2:29:00 AM  
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Feb 17, 2008 2:31:00 AM  
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if you want to paint something blue, it can be painted blue.. but there might be lead in the paint... think about it

Feb 17, 2008 2:34:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

if you want to paint something blue, it can be painted blue.. but there might be lead in the paint... think about it

Feb 17, 2008 2:34:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Honestly, I dont think that useing Concerta or Adderall is a bad thing. I am a college student and I must say in between trying to come up with money for rent, necessities, and trying get good grades is hard as hell especially in a real college. Each class requires a lot of work and sometimes there is not enough time during the day and I use ADD medicine to help me stay up and work harder. Also, it helps me make better use of my time a lot of times when I am studying with people someone will start talking and throw everyone off. Useing these medications allow me to tone them out. Also, being on th medicine allows you to process infomration a lot faster. You can think of possible solutions much faster and in debt than you normally would and that is really helpful in like a sneior thesis class. ANd no I do not use it all the time. Most of the time Ill study without useing the drug or anything like that and im not dependent on it. I dont think this should be in the same class as cocain and meth.

Feb 20, 2008 11:24:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I have a son that has started concerta, and I don't know if it is the right thing to do for him because he is only 7. He is doing well in all areas of school except for reading. His teacher says that he doesn't focus when they have reading group, he is every where but there. At home he bounces off the walls, he talks and he can't shut up, he can't even sit down at the dinner table to eat a whole meal. When we go out to places with crowds or multipule things going on, he can't focus, he has a melt down. He doesn't verbally express what is going on inside his head, so I don't know if putting him on a medication is the right thing to do. Just reading these blogs scare me, there are so many pros and cons, how do I know what is right for someone elses life. What if I put him on this, and he develops ticks, is he going to hate me when he is older and still has these ticks? This is just so hard for me. What do I do?

Feb 26, 2008 2:22:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I am a senior in college and I have been taking Adderall for 2 years now. The drug was easy to obtain from my physician (who had no trouble writing me a prescription, and even ups the dosage when I ask him to). For thos of you who are thinking about taking adderall, or want your children to go on it; be advised that the down side to the drug is the extreme low when your blood stream no longer has the drug in its system. However, on the brighter side, this drug allows me to focus more clearly. I also recommend exercise for those who are currently on the drug and are experiencing the "crash" when comming off from the drug.

Mar 1, 2008 9:45:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

does anyone notice that the kids who are prescribed the drug leave some fairly lengthy responses? i just thought that was funny and a bit ironic. what a wierd world we live in.
ps. does anyone know if there have been studies on the relationship between physical activity and adderal use?

Mar 5, 2008 12:04:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

can you od on xanax?

Mar 5, 2008 8:05:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

i'm a college student at florida state university in tallahassee. I am currently on adderall without being prescribed to it. I feel like i am on cocaine. i hear that adderall is like doing legal coke. I believe i do have add or ADHD though. I have not been tested for it in the last 10 years but i know that it can come in and out because it happens to me often. I have a young sister, who was in a terrible car wreck and prescribed to 32 mg of concerta per day after the acccident because she could not concentate in school. I believe that if she has ADD i definitely have add. I know how adderall and other prescription dugs for add are terribly bad for you and that is why i am hesitant to go on anything. i take adderall when i am having trouble studying or before i have a major test. i ALSO have other problems within my self, like depression, paranioa, anxiety, and at times thoughts of suicide. that is another reason i am hesitant to get tested. If anyone has any advice for me anytihng is appreciated.thank you

Mar 6, 2008 2:42:00 AM  
Anonymous Tiff said...

I'm also a collage student and on 30mg Adderall a day. My 13 year old son also takes 30mg of Adderall a day.

For those who take this drug and receive that high effect as if they were on cocaine are taking it for the high. I do have ADD, I can tell because I do NOT get that cocaine effect from Adderall, cocaine don't even do anything for me.

I can not tell when the drug takes affect at all. However, I can tell that in the morning before I take Adderall I can not remember or retain anything and around 6pm of a night I become extremely disoriented and I can't think straight, my thoughts start to run together as if they were on a head on collision with each other. When I try to study late at night I can't remember what I just read therefore it does me no good.

I have talked to my doctor about this and he told me that I can not take Adderall all day, I would never go to sleep. He's right I wouldn't ever sleep, but that's also due to me not ever wanting to sleep. I don't need Adderall to stay awake. I'm a person who don't like to sleep, therefore I don't. I only average about 3 to 4 hours a night tops. I force my self to stay up just because I like the quite. For someone with ADD where every noise around them keeps them from thinking straight, when the meds have wore off and the whole house is sleeping, I just can't give up that time of peace.

As for my son when he's NOT on Adderall he's so hyper his entire body tenses up and he shakes uncontrollably because he so excited. He drives everyone nuts, he's literally going 15000 miles an hour. Now when he takes his Adderall he's calm he thinks before dose things and he don't get to that level of extreme where he's just bouncing off the walls.

I do not make him take meds during the summer. This year I even let him start school without them. My son received an F in every class. He even failed ART! How do you fail ART??? He did not complete one assignment the first 6 weeks for any of his classes. He lied to me daily about school, was not giving me any of the information from his teachers.

Once I found out I put him back on Adderall, within 3 weeks he received award for bringing his grads up over 20%.

For those judging Adderall stating it's legal cocaine, for you it maybe and you probably don't have ADD, your probably more Bipolar than ADD and might want to consider trying Seroquel or a different form of medication.

Mar 6, 2008 11:19:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'm a 21 year old college student who has recently suffered a traumatic brain injury to the frontal lobes of my brain roughly a year ago. My doctor prescribed me to Adderall 20mg XR to help me overcome my dullness in personality as well as loss in executive and organizational skills and to to stimulate concentration in class and while reading. This has made all the difference in the world for me in overcoming my set backs and stay in school with certain accomodations. I do know people who abuse the stuff and yea, they may wind up with an anuerysm or other serious side effects from it. However, i believe that adderall as well as other stimulants are beneficial for some people, while others they are not. I was on ritalin before I was switched to adderall because the ritalin almost put me to sleep and did not help me at all. Try switching to another medication if you are not satisfied with the one you're on. Most importantly, listen to the doctor's advice and if he's not familiar with the drug, go to a doctor more specialized and familiar with the with it rather than a doctor who just hands it out like a candy machine...those doctors are the ones hurting and causing the abuse of these medications across America.

Mar 16, 2008 12:39:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Please help me. My neice is 21 and has taken adderall for over a year. She is an exceptional college student, a young lady of high moral character, and yet six months ago committed an illegal act in a fit of anger. Could this be because of the adderall? She has always been a passive, sweet child. She does not understand what prompted her to commit this act. She is devastated, apologetic, and questioning her sanity.

Mar 27, 2008 11:32:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I am another freshmen college student from a big university. I graduated salutatorian at my private high school despite being dx with ADHD in middle school and having drugs refused by my parents who both hold graduate degrees( one in biology and one in chemistry) I never heard about Adderall until college when I found friends abusing it. I used to be very healthy and am still in the same shape as when i ran cross country and played basketball in high school. At least i look like it with small waist and big chest/arms, however i feel awful because i started abusing adderall 3 weeks ago.
I am now stopping and it is very hard. I never took large doses. I snorted it twice in small doses and at first i felt great and had none of the severe concentration problems i had before. After a week i started to feel worse. It was not a high i liked but getting stuff done and having lots of energy. That is gone now. I just want to get off before i ruin my perfect health and form and my mental abilities. Adderall does not make you smarter, it makes you focused, but i feel stupid. I could easily get a prescription and was offered one by my doctor before i went to college. I dont want one. For those of you who have kids who take it and it helps that is fine- BUT DO NOT LET THEM HOLD THE MEDS. Also I don't think need it every day, maybe just when the workload is a little harder. The stuff did not work for me and I DO have ADHD at least thats what a psychiatrist told me both in middle and high school. The stuff is a quick fix. I look at my 10+ friends that are taking it and they are boring, not creative, absent minded, spit out half sentences and are not doing very well in school to be honest. Does it work? YES. Should you take it every day? i wouldn't want to. If anyone has information
on detoxing from this stuff please post it.
ps my grades have not improved: i went from a 3.48 to a 2.7....

Apr 3, 2008 11:41:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I take 2.5 to 5mg of Adderall only on days when I need it. I'm 22 year old Male and weigh 160 atm. This dosage is all I need to excel in the confines of our society. Ritalin never worked at all for me, but a low dosage of this drug has seriously changed my life in ways that I previously believed only something like God could. I would prefer to leave a long-winded and exceptionally crafted response like the previous posters have, but I have many other good works to tend to and my message need not be long to be important to someone.

Dose low and learn how you respond to the medication, adjust the dose accordingly, but NEVER more than what the Doctor prescribes.


This Drug is not the Poison of America.


The Ignorant, Uninformed, Weak minded and susceptible abusive individuals who take medication without proper prescription are their own poison.

Unfortunately, they don't die quick enough and somehow people manage to stereotype these extreme failures as what people who take Adderall are suppose to be. It really shouldn't be this way, but most ADD people realize our focus is better directed elsewhere. Hope you all find what you need.

Apr 8, 2008 5:17:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I am a 26 year old college student currently taking perscribed Adderall. I have read over several of these comments and in my opinion seem to hold some valuable and experienced information. I decided to submit my opinion, due to the unfortunate comments towards the medication. In one of the posted comments, a diagnosed ADHD college student seemed to have a negative, yet uneducated opinion towards Adderall. The bad side effects that were experienced were due to misuse of the drug, in which he would double up on the recommended dose. The interesting thing about this was the reason for abusing his prescription("when the pills begin to wear down I feel my AD/HD symptoms more intense and catch myself being lazier then ever and sleepy"). Adderall is a stimulant, which you probably know by now. In my own words it puts yor body into overdrive. When the prescribed dose begins to wear off of course you will be tired, not to mention doubling up on the dose. Adderall, in my opinion can be a helpful medication if taken correctly. My advise for anyone interested would be to read up on the drug, there are many helpful sites out there. If this guy would have done the same thing instead of doubling up on his dose he would have seen that these are common side effects of misuse. From what I have seen, a responsible dosing at a steady pace is really the way to go. Also, be knowlegable when you consult your physician. It seems like the easiest answer for them to give you sometimes is to increase the dose! When they do, know what to expect from the drug. Oh and keep this "dose-doubling" guy in mind.

Apr 30, 2008 11:49:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This post is for the FSU student seeking advice. I honestly think that your ability to see that you have problems within and to show concern towards that problem when seeking medicated therapy is a plus. As for the Adderall, there are other medications to aid with focus and concentration that arent so "harsh" on your body. I would recommend talking with a physician for some recommendations. I dont know how your thinking, but if it helps look for a physicial outside Tallahassee. Also include in that conversation with him/her the concerns you have with any possible conflicts between those meds. and the problems you speak of. I personally have not witnessed psychotic behavior within myself while taking Adderall, and I havent exactly lived with a "Brady Bunch" mental status in my past, but realize everyone is different when it comes to how they react to meds. From what Ive read from your post, I understand where your coming from with concerns, but don't take every one opinion to heart, afterall they are just opionions from their experience. Talk with a physician, tell him everything you you have posted here and do a search on ADD meds there are many helpful sites and forums. Good Luck! Hopefully this will help you.

Apr 30, 2008 12:53:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Adderall XR has changed my life. I am currently 29 working as a pharma rep. I stopped and looked at my life one day. The realization that I had no goals other that what would be fun today, no focus or desire to do anything more than I had to, or any ability to finish a task. I bought a house to flip about three years prior and I began tons of remodeling projects that I could not bring myself to complete. I could not go to sleep at night and found a friend in lunesta and bars. I was not fat, but my clothes were tight and I was headed toward being overweight. I started taking Adarall XR in hopes that I could get a grip on my spastic life. It worked! In the 7 months I have taken it I have stopped drinking and lost interest in it, finished every project I started including an addition to my house, and sleep like a rock. It has changed every aspect of my life. I now get up at 6 every morning, think through everything before I do it, and accomplish everything I decide to do. I have never abused, shared, or done anything with my meds apart from how they are prescribed. Opening your eyes in the morning and being excited because it is a new day to experience is an amazing feeling. I cant wait to wake up. Everything in my life I is better thanks to it!

May 6, 2008 7:44:00 AM  
Anonymous louisiana leah said...

hi my names leah and i just turned 16. when i was about 7 my pediatrician prescribed me to rittilen. on rittilin i started to develop a vocal tick. it went away at about age 11 even after i stopped taking rittilin at age 8.

about 2 years ago i heaard the new drug that everyone was taking..."adderall"...so i bought some off the street and liked it because it helped me in school and clean. well 1 wasn't enough anymore so i kept taking more. i told my mom i was having trouble in school so she brought to the doctor and he prescribed me vyvanse, a newly developed adhd medication; similar to adderall.my verbal tick came back for good.

i am 16 years old and was addicted to adderall and vyvanse as of two weeks ago. i was takeing up to 130 milligrams a day.

never in my life did i think i would be writing this. i have lost everything including my family. i put adderall first, and now i have nothing.

im going in to the hospital tommorow morning. there i will have heart surgery due to blockage in my blood vessel. the blockage is an infection suposedly caussed by high amounts of amphetimene.

May 24, 2008 1:24:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I am a 22 year college student who was recently diagnosed with ADHD. I was prescribed 20mg Adderall XR for one month and noticed a change in behavior immediately. However, once my body adjusted to the medication (about two weeks) I could not determine if they were even helping me. My doctor mentioned that this might happen since 20mg is a low dosage. I went back to see my doctor a month later and got him to increase the dosage to 30mg. I have now been taking 30mg for one month and I am showing very few if ANY affects of ADHD. The 30mg dosage has worked much better. It was difficult to get my doctor to increase the dosage due to so many college students abusing Adderall. i was automatically lumped into this "group" because of my age and the fact that I am a student. This medication has helped me in so many ways! To the college students who do abuse Adderrall....YOU SHOULD BE ASHAMED OF YOURSELVES FOR CAUSING PROBLEMS FOR THOSE WHO ACTUALLY DO NEED THIS! YOU ARE NO BETTER THAT A JUNKIE ON THE STREET!This medication has changed my life. Before taking this medication I was not even able to sleep at night because my mind would not stop racing. Now I am able to lay down and night and go right to sleep. Also, I was talking so fast that I could not even complete one full sentence or idea due to the fact that my speech couldn't keep up with my thoughts. Now I am able to control what I say and speak at a normal pace. So, in closing, please know that this medication is not a "cop out" (coming from someone who has tried many alternatives), and that it is very helpful to those who actually need it. Please be educated in your decisions to take ANY medication. Also, please do not judge people who take this medicine, as it really does help if you actually use it correctly. Thanks

Jun 16, 2008 12:27:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I am 35 and teach school. I take adderal for my ADHD. My son is 13 he is taking adderal for ADD. He started taking it at the age of 7. He does not like taking it. On the weekend or during the summer he doesn't take it. Before he started his meds I knew that there was something not right. He was so smart he knew things that most kids his age had no clue about. Then when it came time to set and learn new things he just could not. He had thoughts runnig thru his mind about every thing except what the teacher was talking about. I put off puttting him on meds till half way though his second year in 1st grade we started off with some other med and he droped 10lb in one month his eyes were black he looked like the walking dead. I belived I cried almost every night after I got him to sleep praying for what to do. The doctor changed him to adderal. The doctor said that you just have to try the diff meds till you find the one that the user can tollerate. We started off with 5mg adderal xr. and I was ashamed of my self when I saw the differants it made in his life. He finly could show everyone what he could do. He hates taking it but I talk with him about how it is working for him and how he feels. He has always been in on the dicison about the meds with the doctor and I. He now takes 15mg xr in the morn and 10mg xr at noon. After he had been taking the meds for about 2 yr I finely relized that that was why I had stuggaled so hard in school.I stayed home for a year after the birth of my second child. The next school year I went back to work I noticed that I could not complet anything I started. I could not control my thoughts a 101 things would be going though my mind all at once. I could not get though one sentance before I started talking about something else. I had also started feeling and thinking things that was not me and no matter what I did I could not stop the thoughts. I had started having migrains while I was pregnat. After about two mo of this I asked some of my friends at work if they thought I had been acting strange. So I went to our doctor and he dignosed me with a chemical in balance and because of that my ADHD had started showing up again and I had lost any control I had learned to manage it with. So that is when I started taking adderal 10mg xr in the morn and 10 mg xr at noon. I know that it gives some people untold amout of enerage but after I take it I feel so druged down for about 30 min. But I have to say it has made me a beliver the diffeance of the flickering of the channels in my head.I take it during the week days and on the weekends my son and I let our excitablity and imagintion run wild. The one thing we both hate about it is that it puts a hat on our personilitys. My speech slows down so every one can understand me and I am able to get done what I need to during the week. How ever this is the summer and we are free sprites at this time becuase we are not on the adderal thats way we do not become addicted and that is why this story is out of sync and really misspelled. My doctor can always tell when I am taking my meds and when I have not. He says he enjoys visting with me both ways but I jump from subject to subject so fast when I am off of the meds it is hard for him to keep up he says he can't write that fast and then reminds me of what I was telling him about that he needs to hear more about. When my son is off his meds he acts like a normal 13yr old boy agrvating his sister but on the meds he is very quiet and reseved. I work with special need kids and I have seen many over medacated and it is sad. I had rather see them swing from the celin than so medacted up that there is no life at all in them. However most reg ed teachers arn't like that. They want nice calm and orderly class rooms. I think those teachers need to move up with the times and get the kids up and learning with all of the child not just with their heads and hands. Any ways I hope this helps. Oh yea by the way I haven't seen but about 2 kids in all 7 yrs I have been teaching that stratarra has helped. It helps at first but then after about a year at the most it is like they are not taking anything.

Jun 21, 2008 3:52:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

do any of you actually know what it is like to be on that drug do you know how damaging the side affects are. i'll tell you that the feeling of ritilen, every function in your body is slowed down! you suffer from severe anxiety! you can't eat so you become scary thin and they build up toxins in your body that are deathly! oh and did i mention that they can stop your heart from beating, i know first hand i have ADHD and i was on that drug and if you care for your children you wont ever do that to them.

Jul 6, 2008 6:28:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

to amanda i have been on concerta since i was in 7th grade. i just recently finished my first year of college now. before the concerta i was on ritalin. i am now on adderroll. it is from what i can tell much better. i used to be one who believed this country is too fast to throw pills down ones throat to solve a problem. i only thought this because the other medications i was on before adderroll made me almost a different person. i was always lathargic and just not my overall self. adderroll is completely different since on it, it is like i get to make the decisions for myself not the medicine making them for me. i have had very few side effects, unlike concerta and ritalin. i focus much better and this shows at work and in the classroom. i just wish that it would have been around earlier. it is the only add medicine i have taken that i can still be me on. on concerta and ritalin it was so bad that i would put the meds under my tounge and drink some water while my mom watched me. then on my way to the bus i would throw them in the back yard because i wanted to be me and not me on medication. i would switch to adderrol asap. this from someone who has been battling it for years.

Jul 23, 2008 2:31:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

the difference between taking adderall and drinking coffee is so completley different it's not even funny.

Aug 22, 2008 6:23:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

After reviewing the comments regarding side effects - can anyone comment on the side effects on sex drive - either positive or negative?

Aug 23, 2008 2:05:00 PM  
Anonymous Michelle said...

I am a 28 year old female currently working on my RN degree. I had taken ritilin for almost a year and then the add came back full blown so my doc prescribed adderall 10 mg twice a day. Those helped even less, so now I have been taking xr 30 mg once a day and it is absolutely wonderful. I can concentrate and I don't have a million thoughts running through my head all the time and I sllep great. I know many people who abuse this drug and i think it's disgusting. College is hard..sleep whenever possible and exercise. There is no excuse for you all to abuse this drug..why? so it gets taken off the market and the the ones who really need it suffer??Stop being a child. you are in college so start being an adult. If you need to abuse or even take this as needed to get your studies done then drop your courseload..I am a former drug addict and have been clean for 7 years so I was hesitsnt about this drug. But if you take it responsibly and for the correct reasons then it works wonders..And for you college students who take it for fun or abuse it then just go to reading and buy some crack..It is the kids like you who are ruining it for the rest of us.

Sep 20, 2008 11:48:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What would happen if one was to consume 5gm expired Adderall??
I recently found out my 15 year old daughter had been taking them so i wanna know if its anything serious or not.

Thanks,

Sep 21, 2008 7:13:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I have been taking Adderall for the last two years. After college graduation, I began working and I was having a hard time completing tasks.

I have taken about 15 - 30 milligrams a day for this period of time, and I must say that I am healthy, living proof that Adderall is a wonder drug. I am increasingly more productive (I published a book), able to work longer (10-14 hours a day) and I must admit that the weight loss is a welcome side-effect.

I understand that Adderall has become a problem for some, but it has helped me a lot. I don't think it is fair to assume that everyone who takes it is an addict. Some people are misusing or are misdiagnosed, and they are ruining it for the people that can benefit from Adderall.

Oct 8, 2008 11:34:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

AMANDA..


I've ran a group home with kids on medications for 11 years and I've never had any issues with kids on CONCERTA, however STRATERA in my experieance has had several side effects... not psychotic, but the kids become very irritable and grouchy which makes them hard to live and deal with... In my experiance the best medication for ADHD is ADDERALL because it works and if you dont like the side you can take your child off of it and the side effects will go away, however it does cause severe weight loss. There is a new medication called FOCALIN. It works well for some kids but for others it causes aggression. There are plenty of options out there for you child you just need to find the right medication for them.

Oct 21, 2008 12:30:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I am currently a college student and recently diagnosed with ADHD. It is something I have wondered about since I was in middle school but was always to emberrased to admit I had a learning problem. I finally got sick of my classmates reading or finishing an assignment in an hour while it took me at least 4 or 5 hours for just one assignment. I am now able to finish my work in a timely manner and actually go to bed before 3 or 4 in the morning. If you don't have ADHD or ADD, you dont know what it is like to work 3 times as hard as your peers to get the same grades, or to misplace things 10 or 15 times a day. If you truly have a problem, then it is not a "high" that you get like you would from cocaine, but just the ability to focus and perform daily tasks that you otherwise wouldn't. There is nothing wrong with having help to focus when it normally takes everything you have to listen to someone talk or to finally comprehend a paragraph after your fourth time to read it. That's like saying that someone who has lost their legs should just have to deal with it instead of using a wheelchair to get around.

Oct 28, 2008 2:35:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I do no suggest stratera at all, and especially if your stepson is already having problems with fear. I went on Stratera and became a zombie. I feared going to sleep at night because of my intense phobia of night and the reoccuring nightmares I was experiencing. I had very vivid nightmares of family members dying every single night. It made me miserable because I was so tired everyday from not sleeping at night. Also, I think Adderall, when used properly is a good thing. I struggled all through school and finally two years ago in college I was put on Adderall. My GPA increased from 2.7 to a 3.8. This was amazing for me because I worked so much harder than my peers but wasn't getting the outcome I deserved. With adderall I was able to understand things quicker and retain information. It made school fun and interesting. Now, I can't stop learning and want to go on for my MBA.

Oct 31, 2008 4:07:00 PM  
Blogger Salesman86 said...

I am a 22 year old male, I just recently started experimenting with Adderall XR 30mg. The first day taking them i felt like i was a ghost watching my body walk and do normal tasks, while i float around myself,lol. After waking up the next morning and taking the adderall again, i felt more energtic and find myself sitting down and reading more. i believe i have had some weird side effects the first time taking them, 1.) after a few hours i felt like someone punched me over and over in the back, it was sore. 2.) my ballsack shrunk and was hurting my baby makers and felt like i justed in a pool of ice water but only dipping my Sack in it. 3.) i found my sexdrive a little more pushy(horny). i am not perscribe this drug i am just seeing if its what i need. I have almost every ADHD adult would have. Yes i understand this isn't legal but its what i am willing to try. I haven't been addicted to any drug i have done in my entire life Yes 22 short years to some but been through alot so i feel about 45. If anyone has just recenlty been taking adderall XR 30mg please post and let me know any important details or if someone has the same side effects. I have been researching Adderall XR 30mg and all Adderalls.

Nov 5, 2008 1:33:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I am a college student and sometimes I wonder if I am already addicted to Adderall. I have been taking this drug for 3 years now daily. I feel as if I can't function until I have taken the pill. I never miss a day. When I am coming off this pill I tend to get really ill and mad at everyone.(Not real sure why that is). I do not think they should prescribe it to college students or younger. This is a highly wanted drug on campus.

Nov 5, 2008 9:14:00 PM  
Blogger Bryanz said...

my parents swore something was wrong with me at a young age. I'd go run an important errand for him, and get distracted along the way and forget my business. Back in his old school ways it mind over matter, and he accepted my failures and personal insults and embarrasments. Abuse happened. THen.. after my parents couldn't figure out how to fix me the way they wanted, when I was 17 they kicked out the trouble making black sheep. It took 20 years of my personal struggle to overcome the difficultes and shame of feeling somehow damaged. Finally, after much work, I got a real diagnosis. I was always ADHD.. possible bi-polar. THen they finally diagnosised my as both. I have been hunting for the right combinations of medications for a good 12 years or more, and occasionally the body chemistry changes and a med becomes unworkable. So back to the drawing board. No matter what the prescribe you, try it the allotted time to come to therapeutic level.. take the next week to address any possible side effects that may be gone within a week or two. Keep track of ALL the meds you a have ever taken and log they meds and what they are for and the manufacturer. (sometime the drug companies help people who need assistance with finance.)

Nov 7, 2008 5:11:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I am a freshman in college. I do not have ADHD, but have taken Adderall over the past 3 years from people that would sell it to me. I was always an A B student but when my junior year came in high school I found my stress overwhelming, between losing weight from wrestling, maintaining my proper GPA, functioning for student council, etc. I started taking Adderall and my grades shot right up. I was the most productive student council member, and my GPA skyrocketed. I in turn was accepted to a number of great colleges (University of Pennsylvania, Boston College..). Without Adderall, however, I would not be where I am. I am much more productive and I am actually motivated to do schoolwork, the kind of schoolwork that is bullshit homework of 15 pages of calculus that has nothing to do with my major.

No, Adderall is not cheating. It is simply a means of exploiting ones skills so that an individual can use them to their full potential, rather than neglect them while they stare out the window in math class..

Nov 14, 2008 12:41:00 AM  
Anonymous carey said...

Hi, I am an adderol abuser, along with anything else that will make me feel the effects like amphetamines do. I take this medicine to get the motive to do the house cleaning, gardening,Laundry, and office work that I have built up and need to catch up on. I work as a barber all day long for 12 hours a day 6 days a week. When I get a day off, I have about 100 things I need to do but am to exhausted to do. I am 52 years old, and it is hard to do all of the stuff it takes to maintain a home, kids, work, and beautiful yard. I will use all the help I can get. Recently, when I take adderol for to many days in a row, my tongue gets a sore underneath it, and I can barely eat or drink. But I stay on it cuz I get to tired when comming down and I can barely stay awake while working. I hate the feeling so much I keep buying them. Its an evil cycle, and my husband is afraid I'm going to kill myself with a heart attack. I need help for sure!!

Nov 27, 2008 10:25:00 PM  
Blogger Winter Rose said...

I take Adderall because I have ADD. I got my BS degree WITHOUT the drug and I had a C average yet I was always on the 99th percentile when it came to overall testing areas such as SATs, etc.. I also was in a program for the gifted when younger. So how can I have an overall GPA so low?

I then started to go back for my Masters now and started taking Adderall in June of 2008 and I am SHOCKED at the vast difference in how well I am able to concentrate, study and actually retain the information I spend hours studying. In the past, before the medication, I would study just as hard for just as long and retain very little. But now my grades are already in the A/B category. For me, Adderall brings me up to the level that others without ADD can be at with just hard work and effort and therefore levels the playing field.

If you use it and you don't need it, your test scores aren't a reflection of how smart you are, or how well you behaved responsibly by studying, or by doing all your work, or really understanding the concepts, or especially how worthy you are of the job your degree gets you. Your grade is really a reflection of how good the cheat method is that you used over another. So that 'A' someone may get is an 'A' for the method of cheating they used (hidden notes, copying from another student, using Adderall) rather than their true worth.

Dec 8, 2008 1:17:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Wow. I am a 24 year old graduate student who was recently diagnosed with multiple sclerosis. I came across this thread because I've been trying find info on adderall as a treatment for MS-related fatigue. And to be completely honest - I am disgusted. Perhaps I should just start knocking on the dorm room doors of my ivy league university for all of my various medications instead of waiting months to get in to see a physician. To the adderall abuses who have posted above me: shame on you. Really and truly. You are simply highly functioning drug addicts. If you need a drug to get through a basic college exam - I hope to God you never get sick or experience any kind of actual struggle in your life.

Dec 10, 2008 2:07:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Anonymous said...
I too strongly believe Adderall is ruining our children! Giving your child SPEED is not the answer to thier problems! My friends son is on 35 mg a day and he is only 8 and hates it, she has to force him to take it! Thats sad! Find a healthy program to put these children in instead of shoving drugs down their throats everyday! Lets get real and teach our children healthy ways to deal with their problems instead of throwing a pill at them!!!!!"

3:33 PM



I am extremely saddened by this... that poor child.. It breaks my heart! Please, help your friend look into other methods to help their son...

Dec 13, 2008 1:33:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I would like to know what the difference is between adderall and concerta in the treatment for adhd.

Jan 9, 2009 12:53:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I HAVE A 9 YR OLD ON ADDERREL XR 5MG SHE IS A VERY MILD CASE OF ADHD. I ONLY GIVE HER MEDICINE TO HER ON THE WEEK DAYS FOR SCHOOL. DURING THE HOLIDAYS AND WEEKENDS I GIVE HER A BREAK FOR THE MEDICINE. HER DR. SAID IT WOULD BE OKAY TO GIVE HER THE MEDICINE LIKE THAT. SHE HAS TAKEN THAT MEDICINE AND SAME STRENGHT FOR ALMOST 2 YRS AND THE ONLY SIDE EFFECT I NOTICE WITH HER IS SHE DOES NOT WANT TO EAT ALL DAY LONG AND WHEN THE PILL WEARS OFF SHE EATS LIKE A HORSE. I LIKE THE XR BECAUSE IT IS TIME RELEASE. SHE SLEEPS AT NIGHT NO PROBLEM, AND HER TEACHERS SAY SHE IS A COMPLETLY DIFFERENT CHILD WHEN SHE TAKES HER PILL. I HOPE THIS HELP A LITTLE FOR ANY ONE WITH PROBLEMS WITH THERE DOSAGE JUST ASK THE DOCTOR IF THEY CAN HAVE A BREAK FROM IT. I ALWAYS SAY SHE IS MY DAUGHTER AND I CAN DEAL WITH HER AT HOME IT IS AT SCHOOL SHE NEEDS IT. 2 YRS AGO SHE WAS SO FAR BEHIND AND NOW SHE IS A A-B STUDENT.

Mar 13, 2009 4:50:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I am 23 year old male. I am attending university with a major in functional biology, and a MB3 minor. I am smart as hell, and everyone I know has told me, so not to be cocky, I know! I catch on to things quickly, and my study skills are superb. I have a 3.6 GPA, I am a senior, and have only one more course to graduate.

I have taken adderall for many years by purchasing it from others in school, which was easy because everyone with psycho parents has a bottle. I did that for a couple of years until one day I could no longer find any available. It felt dibilitating, and I decided to BS my doctor into a script, which I received easily.

I've taken adderall pretty much as prescribed with no serious complications for about a year now. Sometimes, like during finals I'll take excessive amounts but I am well aware that this must be taken carefully and with lots of food and fluids.

However, I must admit, and its embarressing, that I do tend to experience horrible if not debilitating side effects. I have a mitral valve prolapse, and for those of you who don't know this term, an irregular heartbeat. I don't give a s**t, never have, never will, because I'm mentally incompacitated by my love for stimulation. I have developed extreme anxiety marked by agitation, discontinued interest in what anyone else has to say, and overall intense anxiety. I can no longer make eye contact, and I am super figity.

However, I have overcome this recently by researching all of your dumb and sometimes educational remarks about this drug. 1. I watch my diet and eat lots of fruit. 2. take xanax daily. 3. I exercise and I can't be more serious about this one it is cruicial, and even a modicum of exercise can be beneficial. The bottom line is if I take the adderall I'll be a twitch, and I won't study. I'm an idiot and for all of you who can associate with these feelings, I FEEL YOUR PAIN! This is a drug, and a damn difficult one to overcome, but understand you are the cause of your own problems, and the only one who can help you is yourself.

I am not going to preach more than I have, but I would like to leave off with one pivotal statement: You POS parents out there who think that the world is moving too fast and your child has to keep up, you are an idiot, you need to reconsider bringing children into this world just so you can F them up. You are the cause of harm to the youth of are country. From an abuser to a facilitator, FU!

Mar 23, 2009 11:49:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I am a college student who uses adderall, like many others, for studying etc. I am not presribed but rather purchase them from a friend who is. I typically injest them orally but today I snorted approx. 50mg which brings me to my problem; an uncontrollable nose bleed. Not much advice for this problem on web MD... Any quick suggestions?

Mar 25, 2009 7:39:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I am going through a really bad divorce and my soon-to-be ex-husband is asking for visitation with our 4 year old son. My soon-to-be ex-husband is prescribed THREE 30 mg. Adderall per day. I believe he buys more off of people he knows. Do any of you have any opinions on that dosage? I just think it's an awful lot of medicine!

Mar 31, 2009 11:34:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

i am also having trouble i have ADHD 2 and i am 14 years old i have had this 4 like 5 years and i had this medicane but it never worked. Do you know anything that could help bc i am in 8th grade and i have never felled a grade but i think i might fell 8th grade and i dont wont 2. Please Help!

Apr 9, 2009 8:24:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

My stepson was put back on adderall for ADD. We recently found out that he also is smoking marijuana (the amt is unknown). What possible side effects will this have on him.

Apr 9, 2009 5:34:00 PM  
Blogger Winter Rose said...

Hello,

***Here are my credentials for answering these questions:

- CADCI (Certified Alcohol and Drug Counselor certificate) which means we have to understand pharmacology and the way all chemicals act on the brain and body.

- QMHA (Qualified Mental Health Associate) I work with individuals and families with mental health disorders.

- BS in Psychology, and am currently working towards my Masters.

- I have a now 13-year-old son (14 on 04/11/09) with Asperger’s, bipolar and ADHD.

This does NOT mean I am a doctor and you must ALWAYS consult an MD or a Psychiatrist. However the advice I offer here is out of my natural desire to help others which is why I got into the mental health field in the first place.***

For Anonymous (Amanda) dated Jan 15, 2006, this is a late response but I just now had time to read all these responses. My 13 year old son was on Concerta for a year and he too seemed to be doing well until he developed anxieties such as needing to check his locker numerous times to be sure he locked it, checking the trash to be sure he didn't throw away something that wasn't trash that was accidentally mixed with the trash. I took him off at that point and we put him on Vyvance and he did well but after a year he wasn't getting any further benefit so we switched to Focalin. Let me tell you, the improvement and difference is obvious. I can only speak for my own son, however. He was blessed with the ability to take medication well and has very few negative responses to medication. I know that's not normal because too many kids and adults can't handle the medications out there.

For Anonymous on March 5, 2007 (FlamablePanties): 1) Adderall (which I am on at 30-60mg a day depending on how bad I feel) is not 'legal cocaine'. If you want to compare it to something 'illegal' for your analogy, then it would be methamphetamine. And even then it's not the same exact drug and from a personal perspective, my life has improved 100% since I've been on it. I went years with ADHD and never treated it because I hated medication and didn't want to be medicated. I told the doctor I was afraid it would slow me down because only because of my ADHD was I able to be so multitasked. However, she rightly pointed out that I may start a bunch of things but I never finished any of them. She promised me it wouldn't slow me down and if I didn't find that it improved my overall quality of life I could stop again.

That was June of 2007 and I've never gone back. I am well aware of addictions and the progress of how they develop and I can see why some people abuse the drug (mostly the ones that don't need the drug but use it to stay awake for college, etc.) and I can tell you as I've explained to others, imagine that people who are normal and don't live with ADHD are always around 80% of their full energy when they wake up and then by the time they are heading out the door to work or school they are at a full 100%. That's great for them. However, myself and others with ADHD are ALWAYS functioning at around a 50%. So when we wake up, we are at around 50% energy levels and we only maybe get up to 70-80% at our peaks. The Adderall helps us to rise up to 100%. The people who don't have ADHD use it unfairly to rise above 100% up to 120% for example and that's where it provides the unfair advantages.

Please understand that ADHD HURTS. I also have a medical condition and EVERY DAY of my life (since I was 7-years-old) I woke up in pain or achy. I thought it was my medical condition but after reading a book about ADHD in adults and realizing the pain could be from that, that's another reason I decided to try and take the Adderall and indeed, the pain goes away when the medication takes effect and I actually have been able to hold a job and get things DONE!

For Anonymous on April 9, 2009, since Adderall is a stimulant and pot is generally a depressant, he is playing with his system in a way that could really hurt him. He is confusing it; up, down, up, down, up, down. "Marijuana also may affect your mental health. Studies show that early use can increase the risk of developing psychosis [a severe mental disorder in which there is a loss of contact with reality, including false ideas about what is happening (delusions) and seeing or hearing things that aren’t there (hallucinations)] in adulthood in individuals having a genetic or other vulnerability to the disease. Also, rates of marijuana use are often higher in people with symptoms of depression or anxiety—but which came first can be difficult to determine, and whether they are causally related is not yet known" (http://teens.drugabuse.gov/facts/facts_mj2.php).

Try other places to get factual information from. Be sure to check the web page and make sure it's a legitimate source and not something like www.potiscool.com. LOL. Here is a few others: http://www.nida.nih.gov/marijBroch/Marijteenstxt.html ; and here's one from my own college: http://www.uoregon.edu/~stl/programs/substance_abuse_prev_edu/marijuana_faq.htm.

Remember that the effects of pot can vary which is why I say it is 'mostly' a depressant. In the 90's, people found if they bred the plants in a certain way, they could have the buds produce so much THC that it crystallized on the outside and that type of pot actually gave energy and sped people up so much so that for a while the government thought they were finding pot mixed with cocaine or speed. So it really depends on what type of pot your child is smoking. But it isn't good to do at all and especially with Adderall.

For all the others out there that go on and on about dumping pills down our children's throats, I am aware that there are those parents out there that should never have had children. I mean, you have to be licensed to drive but not to have children?! Crazy. So yeah, I believe there are those that want an easy way out.

However, using my own situation as an example, my son was a wonderfully normal baby until around 4 years old when he started to have uncontrollable tantrums if something set him off. That alone isn't a big deal because all children go through that. However, from a mental health perspective, the problem was that those tantrums lasted for 2 hours or more sometimes. I don't believe in full corporal punishment (a swat if a child is going to touch a hot stove, or cross a busy street, yes) but instead I believed in positive discipline and logical consequences, even took classes on child development and positive discipline. However, the behaviors my son exhibited were more than just defiance or normal naughty behavior. For as consistent as we were with my son with our discipline and the escalation he still showed, there was something else wrong with him. I took him at 7-years-old to his doctor to talk about the out of control fits and screaming even in public. He referred us to the psychiatrist. She already had his chart and in it contained the behaviors and concerns already. After 45 minutes she was ready to give him medication. This method was very different than what I was used to, where you see a psychiatrist on a weekly basis for a while before medication was given. So I walked out and didn't take the prescription.

I was even more determined to help my son and the next year I did everything under the sun for him. He had intense therapy, and we were even more consistent with him (if that was possible). He still only escalated. Finally after that year, when he was 8-years-old, I took him back and said I don't know what else to do. The doctor said he sounded bi-polar (in adults, bi-polar manifests with extreme highs and lows but in children the poles are aggression and anger). We started slow, on Risperdal and Depakote. I asked how we would know if it would work and the doctor simply said "oh, you'll know in about 3 days" and as if she was a psychic, that's exactly what happened. It was a 180% degree turn around. He was back to being an average child.

Since then, we've had to alter a few things, such as after a year on Depakote, his blood platelets were affected so he bruised too easily so we switched him to Lamictal. After that, at around 10-years-old we determined he also had ADHD and we started first Concerta, then Vyvance and now Focalin. Now, as of the last 6 months, we've also discovered he has Asperger’s (the high functioning form of autism).

My son can function and live a relatively normal life with both behavioral modifications which I and his therapist work on in conjunction with medication that helps him to focus and not feel so out of control that he can't function in life.

I don't need to justify myself or my decisions to anyone here or out in the world. I know I did the right thing and will go to my maker proud of the young man I am raising and the decisions I made to assist him.

But for those of you either with ADHD or a child with ADHD, don’t give up hope and don't let others tell you you're wrong. When someone doesn't have ADHD or hasn't experienced a child with true ADHD, they have no clue what it's like. I wish there was a way to open a school for JUST ADHD children and invite those know-it-alls to visit those kids while they aren't medicated. I bet they couldn't last too long! LOL

Feel free to ask any further questions on my own blog at: http://worthmuchmore.blogspot.com/

Apr 10, 2009 4:23:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I have ADD and I am on adderall, and I absolutly love it. I have been on it for over 3 years, I dont have any weird side effects to the medication. I think it inspires me. I just got my ged and I am enrolled in college getting my bachelors degree and I am a straight A student. I notice when I run out and I dont take it I feel horrible, and I cant concentrate or do anything. When I am on this drug I can funtion!! This is not a bad drug! All of you people who are making it out to be that way should stop and actually try putting yourself in the shoes of someone who has this disorder and then see how you could possibly cope with out it! Believe me you wont!! So to everyone who talks bad about it, should take that into consideration!And basically worry about your own problems instead of trying to rid the world of things you know nothing about!!!

Apr 11, 2009 10:06:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I am a 29 yr old mother of 3 and I was diagnosed with adhd 3 years ago. I was put on adderal and it was the best thing that ever happened to me! To all the people making a big deal over this you should try putting yourself in my shoes for a week and see how you feel. This drug has given me inspiration and motivation to do the things that I have always tried to accomplish but never followed thru because I was always too distracted and disorganized. I just recently went back to school and got my ged and I am now a freshman in college. I am working towards my bachelors degree in healthcare management. Without this drug I would not be where I am today. I never thought I would actually be a straight A student in college a few years ago I would have never accomplished all that I have done. I dont have any weird side effects from taking this medication, I think all the naysayers are just jealous that they cant be this brilliant in their lives!! I think that is the problem all of you anti drug people are just jealous you cant be diagnoised with adhd. That is my opinion on the subject!! To the people who are ADHD continue taking adderall and continue to be brilliant and unstoppable in this life,because remember you only have one life to live and why not live it to the fullest!!!

Apr 11, 2009 10:18:00 PM  
Blogger Zyta said...

I find it rather fascinating that people are so concerened with this. I myself was diagnosed with ADHD and I was taken off of the medication do to heart problems it caused me as a child. Since then I have lead a great life, and even if I figit a lot and don't get everything done exactly as I had first planned; it gets done. It isn't about needing drugs to control your life, it's about learning to live with wheat you're given and coping with it.

Apr 16, 2009 10:02:00 AM  
Blogger Winter Rose said...

One thing I'd like to make VERY clear to people. You can NOT judge other's functionality, pain or impairment based on YOUR PERSONAL experience because everyone is different. To explain it is simple terms, you can have two people that have the same diagnosis of bipolar but one is so bad they can't function, have extensive legal problems, etc., while the other has never had legal problems, has a family, a job, etc.

The same goes for ADHD. You function well without medication? Wonderful! I'm very happy for you in all honesty because although I am a person that hates to take medication, hates to put additional chemicals in my body, I realize that my body is lacking something that the medications I do take replace or help. Many others out there are in the same situation as I am.

Apr 18, 2009 1:55:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Life is life in all aspects so for me experiencing all if its shades enlightens me. Currently I'm in college. I've challenged myself both physically and mentally most of my life. You'll never know how someone feels until you're in their shoes, which is why I (for me) gain knowledge by wearing them.
So "adderall abuse in college students" is the topic. I know plenty of people who suffer from abusing it and how they are perceived by others. I also know people who have adhd, take adderall, respond well to it or don't. They too are Judged.
I personally am not bothered by or care of others opinions towards me and maybe that's one of the benefactors to my purpose.
I sought out a student who gets a 60 count 20 mg pscript of Adderall monthly but doesn't take it, so he has months of doses on stash for sale to those who want it. I bought 140 pills of 20 mg non-XR for 50 bucks and slept that night pondering day 1s journal entry.
Keeping it short, I started with 2 the first day and went up from there, finishing them all just shy of three weeks. The highs were wonderful, I completed tasks both day and night, felt social benefits and antisocial waves (esp towards the end), went from 150 to 140 pounds and my journal entries captured most aspects of the positive and negative aspects during the abuse.
Knowing the battle of withdraw would be very intense, the last 48 hours were still spent clearing out the supply in the largest doses throughout.
All the + and - side affects were experienced. I spent almost all of my time outside afterwards coping with my body's desire for more, but knowing I'd never have it again. That was a little over a year ago and it took a good three months for the desire to truly be gone (again, for me)
For the abuser and controlled user, I see the drugs allure. As we all know the drug always comes down and the higher you go the hard you fall. For those prescribed, look at the long term and think about how long you'll use it. whether you take it as prescribed or not it is still the same drug... doing the same thing to the body and mind at different levels of intensity. Adderall's functionality is of high fame, but it isn't the 'only' path to allertness/happyness/weightloss (as a note exercise really does contribute to all of the above)
...Lastly to the judges. this drug can help the student keep his mind on the lecture and homework and maybe off of accumulating debt college can bring, family, relationships, good and bad events both past and future. It can easily lead to high doses for the student struggling to hold on and if it does lead to abuse a helping hand or words of equality and positivity is the only potentially helpful attribute to his/her position: a walk in some pretty painful shoes...

Apr 25, 2009 10:27:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

im a premed student taking adderall is like taking speed except its made synthetically and also much safer. more importantly the drug adderall and other such amphedamines are terrible for your body!!! don't use them instead live a healthy life style get excercise and eat right and that will take care of your adhd symptomes naturally.
if you have a severe case then try more alternatives to deal with your disorder make and effort!!! listen to classical music which brings the brain to the peak of its performance for focusing. Also try yoga :) its fun and it also is great for meditation which is a natural medicine for adhd.

May 4, 2009 8:35:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Dear Richard,
I know that this is going to sound condescending but that is not my intention. Had you ever used adderall to study you would never compare it to a few lattes. It is abused; I agree that it's a problem. However, people don't "risk their health" because adderall is marginally more effective than coffee. In my experience I have seen it abused for the most part when individuals feel that they are faced with more work than they can handle. I have seen people who abstain from all other drugs compromise their standards because they feel overwhelmed. I have never known anyone who was disappointed with the result. Adderall much does more than increase ones alertness; It makes you interested, more focussed and far more analytical. That is why people, many of which generally would not, choose to risk their health and future to have it.

Jun 9, 2009 2:55:00 PM  

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