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Thursday, January 12, 2006

Sinus Headaches for 2006?
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There are many reasons for a headache during the holidays, but mine was due to sinusitis. Like many other folks, for as long as I can remember, I've had hay fever, also called allergic rhinitis. A couple of times a year, I get sinusitis, which usually causes a toothache, apparently located at the base of an upper incisor. I also get a feeling of pressure at my cheeks, and a sinus headache.

I've learned that sinusitis is caused by rhinitis, specifically swelling of the nasal mucosa at the areas deep in the nose where the sinuses normally drain. The fancy term for this area is the osteo-meatal complex, or OMC for short. Your doctor would need a fiberoptic scope to view this area, a $1000 instrument that only ENT docs have in their office. However, the symptoms of rhinosinusitis are distinct enough that viewing the OMCs is not necessary to confirm this very common disease before treating it.

When I've got an exacerbation of my allergic rhinosinusitis, I use Sinus Rinse twice-a-day, followed by a nasal decongestant, then a nasal corticosteroid spray. Washing out the nasal passages with salt water is a treatment used successfully for hundreds of years.

If you like metaphysics and alternative medicine, you can dribble a cup of salt water into each nostril from a $20 ceramic Neti pot. If you are rich, you can put the salt water in a $120 nebulizer and spend ten minutes sitting while it produces a salt water mist. All pharmacies carry a $15 bottle of saline nasal spray with preservatives, but it only has 4 ounces of salt water, not even enough to rinse out one side of your nose once. I've tried all of these over the years, but have happily settled on a plastic squeeze bottle that holds a cup of warm water. This Sinus Rinse bottle costs less than ten dollars, lasts for a year or more, and comes with packets of salt, the size of fake sugar packets.

I simply tear open a salt packet and pour it into the bottle. I then fill the bottle from the warm shower or the bathroom sink and shake it. Sometimes I've filled it with cold water and nuked it for 30 seconds in the microwave. I then lean over the sink and push the smooth black tip of the bottle against one nostril, then gently squeeze the bottle, sending the salt water through one side of my nose and out of the other side, washing away the gunk. I then repeat the squeeze on the other side.

If I was really poor, I would just buy the bottle and measure out a teaspoon of salt from a shaker or container of salt, but the Sinus Rinse packets don't cost much and are very convenient, especially since I travel a lot. If you don't mix the correct amount of salt with the water, it will sting your nose. If the water is too cold or too hot, it's also uncomfortable. The correct temperature and salt concentration makes the nasal lavage (rinse or douche) soothing, although the sight of snot is not appetizing. Just remember, if you don't wash this icky material -- mucus, pollens, smoke particles, and pus cells (neutrophils and eosinophils) out of your nose, you will unknowingly swallow it, up to a quart every day. (The concentrated hydrochloric acid in your stomach digests it quickly.)

I wait for more than 15 minutes after the Sinus Rinse (enough for the remainder of the salt water to drain away), and then use a long-acting nasal decongestant spray (like Afrin). The exact technique of using a nasal spray is very important, since the usual technique doesn't get the medication around the sinus drainage openings, where it is needed the most. If you haven't used the spray for more than 24 hours, check the level of fluid in the bottle and prime it by spraying it once into the room air. Ensure that it produced a nice plume of mist.

Stand next to your bed (or someone else's bed!). Look downwards. Insert the tip of the bottle about a half an inch into your nostril and then tilt it so that it is pointed towards the back of your neck (NOT towards your eyebrows). Squeeze it. Don't inhale while you are squeezing the bottle. Do the same for the other nostril. Now quickly lie down on your back with your head extending over the edge of the bed, and stay there for 3 minutes! This strange maneuver causes the solution to drain downwards to bathe your sinus openings (the OMC areas), which have become closed due to inflammation of the nasal mucus membranes.

If your doctor has also prescribed for you a nasal corticosteroid spray (like Flonase, Rhinocort, or many others), administer that spray a few minutes after the nasal decongestant spray, using the same technique.

The decongestant nasal spray will begin to work within a few minutes, but the corticosteroid spray takes several days of daily use to fully suppress your nasal inflammation (rhinitis).

Use the Sinus Rinse first because that removes all of the mucus in the nose, which would prevent the medications from getting to where they are needed (the OMC areas). Use the nasal decongestant spray before the nasal corticosteroid spray because the decongestant will quickly shrink the nasal passages, allowing better distribution of the corticosteroid solution thoughout the nasal cavity.

I'm aware of the old worry that the use of nasal decongestant sprays for more than 3 days may cause rebound nasal congestion (rhinitis medicamentosa or Afrin Addiction), so, I try not to use it for more than a week. By then, the nasal corticosteroid spray has reduced my nasal inflammation, preventing the rebound nasal congestion, and the original cause of the rhinosinusitis exacerbation is gone.

I noticed that a company is now selling online a new $30 "system" for Afrin Addiction. It works by slowly tapering (diluting) the daily dose of nasal decongestant. I prefer to use a nasal decongestant instead of an oral decongestant (like Sudafed), because of the many side-effects of oral decongestants (such as nervous system stimulation and increased blood pressure).

Related Topics: Headache, Nasal Sprays: More Than Meets the Nose?

Posted by: Dr. Enright at 4:21 PM

132 Comments:

Blogger CuriousGeorge2000 said...

I have a question are their any drugs awaiting FDA approval that tie the improvement of asthma while at the same time addressing environmental allergies like pollen. It seems to be that when Asthma occurs it is triggered by some environmental change that congest or irritates the patient breathing which then leads to an asthmati reaction. Any thoughts here

12:06 AM  
Anonymous michelle said...

I am curios to know more about athma in my four(4) month old daughter. I have never had a child with asthma and I am at a loss for ways to control it. Please Help!

5:47 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Excellent advice!

10:29 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

My son is now 16 and has lived with asthma. I made several trips to the emergency room before the doctor told me I should get a nebulizer. I did not realize that you could purchase one for home use. It cost $7.60 after insurance! We learned how to use it and it was a God send several times! We tried several products before we found Singulair and it workes. He hasn't had an asthma attack for several years.

12:58 PM  
Anonymous Nicole said...

Hi, I have a question regarding the method of using the nasal spray(s)? Because in the article it says to lay on a bed with your head upside down immediatly after using the spray, to evenly distribute the medication. This sounds like a good idea, but I'm wondering if this would really apply to me?!

I had septoplasty / cobalation back in May 2005. (My septum was crooked and blocked most of the nasal airways, so I had a very hard time breathing). My doctor recently just said that my nasal passages have healed very nicely and I now have a really good opening in the passageways. I still have allergies, and that is why I'm on Flonase. So, like I said, would the procedure mentioned work for me, even though my passages are clear as it is?!

Thanks for any help in this matter!

10:22 PM  
Anonymous dalia said...

I am really worried about the medications of many people use... thats the reason because show that theme to you... The Drugs like the FLONASE

the most important things about flonase

Flonase is a steroid. It prevents the release of substances in the body that cause inflammation, is used to treat the nasal symptoms of allergies and other seasonal reactions.,may also be used for purposes other than those listed in this medication guide.

Use Flonase spray exactly as directed by your doctor. Read the information insert included with your medication. If you do not understand these instructions, ask your pharmacist, nurse, or doctor to explain them to you.
To use the nasal spray:
Shake the bottle gently and then remove the dust cover,It is necessary to prime the pump into the air the first time it is used, or when you have not used it for a week or more. To prime the pump, hold the bottle with the nasal applicator pointing away from you and with your forefinger and middle finger on either side of the nasal applicator and your thumb underneath the bottle. Press down and release the pump three to four times until a fine spray appears. The pump is now ready to use,
Blow your nose to clear your nostrils,Close one nostril. Tilt your head forward slightly and, keeping the bottle upright, carefully insert the nasal applicator into the other nostril.,Start to breathe in through your nose, and while breathing in press firmly down once on the applicator to release the spray. Use your forefinger and middle finger to spray while supporting the base of the bottle with your thumb. Breathe gently inwards through the nostril. Breathe out through your mouth,
If a second spray is required in that nostril, repeat the above steps, Repeat the above steps in the other nostril.
Wipe the nasal applicator with a clean tissue and replace the dust cover, Do not use this bottle for more than 120 sprays even though the bottle is not completely empty.
Clean the nasal spray at least once a week. Remove the dust cover and then gently pull upwards to free the nasal applicator. Wash the applicator and dust cover under warm tap water. If the nasal applicator becomes blocked, let it soak in warm water. Do not try to unblock the nasal applicator by inserting a pin or other sharp object. Allow the pieces to dry at room temperature, then place the applicator and dust cover back on the bottle.
Do not use more of this medication than is prescribed for you. Never use more than two sprays in each nostril (200 mcg) per day. It may take a few weeks to see the effects of Flonase. Talk to your doctor if your symptoms do not improve or if they get worse
Store Flonase at room temperature away from moisture and heat.

In the same calification we can find drugs like

the fioricet is a pain reliever and fever reducer.
is in a class of drugs called barbiturates that slow down your central nervous system (brain and nerve impulses) causing relaxation.
is believed to constrict dilated blood vessels that may contribute to tension headaches.
Together, acetaminophen, butalbital, and caffeine are used to relieve complex tension (muscle contraction) headaches although precisely how it works is unknown.
Fioricet may also be used for purposes other than those listed in this medication guide.

Amoxicillin is used to treat certain infections caused by bacteria, such as pneumonia;
bronchitis; gonorrhea; and infections of the ears, nose, throat, urinary tract, and skin.
It is also used in combination with other medications to eliminate H. pylori, a bacteria
that causes ulcers. Amoxicillin is in a class of medications called penicillin-like
antibiotics. It works by stopping the growth of bacteria. Antibiotics will not work for
colds, flu, and other viral infections.
Amoxicillin comes as a capsule, a tablet, a chewable tablet, a suspension (liquid), and
pediatric drops to take by mouth. It is usually taken every 12 hours (twice a day) or every
8 hours (three times a day) with or without food. To help you remember to take amoxicillin,
take it around the same time every day.


Vicodin is a pain killer most commonly seen as a white tablet with the name “Vicodin, is
most commonly prescribed for persons experiencing pain after surgery or intense
pain. It helps calm a person down and increases their ability to relax and forget about
painful ailments (which speeds up recovery)


you can find more information about vicodin at www.crdrx.com, 10/325 at www.10-325.com, vicoprofen at www.1vicoprofen.com and lortab at www.1lortab.com


Have a great day

4:03 PM  
Anonymous Keely said...

I have allergies, and i am constantly sick from them. I occasionaly (about every 2 weeks) cough up pus balls. And they are most literally balls, not mucus or phlem. The source of the nasty balls is in the front of my throat, i have learned this as I felt one protruding, it felt like I couldn't swallow a small piece of food. I then "popped" it out with my index finger. It smelled very bad and was white/yellowish colored. What are they? How can I get rid of them?

12:10 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The pus balls are bacteria. That's why they smell. Gargle with some Listerine to bring it up, and spit it out. I have them sometimes.

5:22 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The pus balls are bacteria. That's why they smell. Gargle with some Listerine to bring it up, and spit it out. I have them sometimes.

5:23 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I get those balls in my throat, as well! But what are they? I know they are bacteria, but what is the cause? Is there something wrong? And why is it so hard to find out anything about them?

8:56 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

i cough up those things once in awhile as well. they look like little pus colored rocks and smell pretty bad i assumed they were from my post nasal drip, i asked my allergist but he never got back to me. i'm glad to know i'm not the only one tohave them but it would be nice to find out what they are and how theycan be treated.

9:37 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I was cleaning my 10 year old ears she produces alot of ear wax ,requiring us to clean them weekly.To my surprise black drainage was in her ear! What is that?

1:53 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I cough up the little white balls as well. My mom advised me to graze my finger across my tonsils to clean them off. When I did so, the white balls popped out of holes in my tonsils. I've managed to locate about 6 locations on my tonsils where they form. Should I continue to clean my tonsils out?

8:30 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I have those little white balls too. I am a nurse and have never heard about them. They came out of a hole on my tonsils. I would like to know if I can get rid of them. This has been going on for months. And yes they do stink!

10:03 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

i have them too. we are all doomed. it's serious stuff

1:24 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I have the stinky white bacteria balls that form too. Does anyone know what they are?!?!? Dr...?

3:36 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I have these "white balls" sometimes also and I have been told that it is because of having cryptic tonsils. My tonsils are very large and have holes all over them. At one time I could press on them and all over them those white balls would pop out and I would have to hurry up and spit them out. They were very smelly and gross. After I knew they were there I would periodically press on my tonsils so they wouldn't have a chance to form and that has seemed to help. From my experience if you continue to keep them pressed out they won't collect in there.

6:20 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Does everyone that gets the "white smelly balls" still have their tonsils?

9:33 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I also would like to know how you press on your tonsils? With what? Your finger?

9:34 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I also have these litte white balls from time to time and this is what I have found on what seems to be refered to as "tonsilloliths" or "Tonsill Stones". If you use those terms you will find several sites with information on them. I have no personal experience in effective treatments.

Peter A

11:45 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The little whitish colored balls are called Tonsil stones. They form from an interaction with trapped food particles and bacteria and interact with a sulfur-based material produced under the tongue...i googled it because i felt like i was the only one and yes, it is really difficult to find out information about them!

7:34 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Those little white "balls" that smell and actually some form of bacteria from food deposits...and I don't think everyone is taking them..or "popping them off" their tonsils per say, but rather the back throat area along the side walls where the throat flesh is only contracted brielfy or exposed during a certain movement such as coughing, etc.

8:06 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I stopped at Webmd to see if I could figure out why I can taste nothing but sulfur.
I found this blog! I learned a lot (mucus balls) but i still have questions, my tonsils were removed when i was 7, I am 33. I did however have a cold/sinus thing a two weeks ago. It was one of the worst ones i have had. I did nothing but sneeze and cough. I have not been coughing up anything since then, but tonight i did notice that my mucus is back to the wonderful lime green color.
This is worrying me only because i have an allergy to sulfur based meds. Sulfer itself does nothing but make my eyes water and i sneeze. After 12 hours of smelling and tasting nothing but sulfur, I am kind of worried/annoyed. Anyone have any input? Could i be experiencing what the one post said about food and sulfur based bacteria.

9:51 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

My dentist tells me those white balls are actually plaque, and that it's normal to have them

9:59 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

My brother had an ear infection due to the pool in school and green puss is released from his ear periodically. Do you know what this is and if it has long term effects on hearing? Please provide assistance.

12:04 PM  
Anonymous Crystal from Madison Center for Children said...

I found the perfect website that tells what those little white balls are that come out of the tonsils. They are called tonsil stones or tonsillolith. But the most helpful website was http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tonsil_stones. Hope it helps you guys....

7:48 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I have had those same "white balls" form in the back of my throat. I saw my ENT and was told that I have "Cryptic Tonsils". That's where the "balls" tend to form in those little(some large) holes in my tonsils. Like everyone else said...they come from food deposits that remain after a meal and eventually become those little nasty deposits in the back of your throat. I have a very nifty little tool that I use to remove them(I cut off the top of a straw at an angle and I use it to scoop them out). The only recommendation I received for treatment was a tonsillectomy, in which I will undergo in two weeks. It may be painful at my old age(29). But atleast I'll be able to get rid of that straw!! Good luck everyone! Go see your doctor!

7:27 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I can't believe there are other people with the same throat problem! I've had these pus balls since I was very young. A throat specialist told me a term for it once and said i would grow out of it since she has never seen an adult with it. It did quit for a while but now it's back and I'm 29. I have been using cotton swabs to get those balls out of my tonsils. If I accidentally swallow them, I get sick to my stomach.

9:03 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Oh thank God! I have been trying to obtain information about this for ages. I have also been using q-tips to get these stones out. This condition is so gross and I'm so glad that I'm not the only one suffering. I too have asked my doctor about this previously and did not get an answer. This advice is extremely useful. I just wish we didn't have to deal with this problem. Thank you everyone for your comments.

6:28 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I am constantly worried about how "pleasant" my breath is because of these bits of hell :|. I can brush my teeth and the back of my tongue as much as I want, but they still come back.

Any remedies?

3:34 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I too have this problem. My doctor called it cryptic tonsils and said unless I get sick regularly, I cant get my tonsils out... I really wanted to get them out because when I do get sick I feel like it harvests the bacteria in those holes, I am always sick atleast two weeks. I too occasionally use a q-tip to get the bacteria out, it really feels unnatural to have!! I always feel like I have bad breath because of that problem... Hopefully someone will come up with a way to get rid of it.

2:09 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I noticed these balls a few years ago myself, and they have become an obsession trying to get them out of my throat. I use a long wooden Q-tip to get them, but be careful if you do this, they break easy. I wonder if gargling with vinegar would help kill the bacteria...I'll try it and get back to you.

10:03 AM  
Blogger michele_dvorak said...

Like many of you, I have had these tosil stones for as long as I can remember. The odd thing is, my tonsils are actually very small. Still, when I have a large stone, I feel flu-like symptoms, sinus pain and tonsil/throat pain. I found a web site dedicated to this issue. There are a LOT of good postings from other stone sufferers. It has convinced me to see a doctor about this. Check it out. http://tonsilstones.org/

12:37 PM  
Blogger Kia Tay said...

ok i didnt read the entire thing but i do know that i have one of those things in the back of my throat RIGHT NOW! i was hoping there was something i could do to avoid shoving something down my throat or having surgery because i am immensely afraid that i will just spew or um...yea die! But i will try the Q-tip thingy but nix on the surgery! My mom gets them too. I've had them for like..ever they usually go away after i cough it up one day. This time this sucker is hanging on and staying there. I hate it because I can feel it. I'm so glad someone can relate!

9:43 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I have these little white balls out of my thort and I would like to know what those are.. They also smell really BAD!! So Pleae help me!

4:42 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I read that a lot of dairy in your diet and mouth breathing can accelerate the formation of the tonsil stones (tonsillolith). I will never give up my skim milk and cheddar cheese and how and the heck do you control mouth vs nose breathing when you are sleeping? Anyway, I have used the straw method to extract the tonsil boogers but I find that just firmly pressing you finger over them seems to cause a mass evacuation of the stones. I know it's time when I either feel one in there or I get the sore throat feeling. Good luck and I hope you can find solice in knowing you are not alone.

11:48 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You people need to think seriously about tonsillectomies. Forcing out the tonsil stones is risking infection, I did the same thing for years because my allergist said an adult tonsillectomy is very difficult. Five years later at age 46 I had the tonsils removed on a Thursday and was back to work on Monday. It is a "mucky" recovery but after all the healing is done you will be so happy. Quit whining and take charge of your health. Risking frequent infections is never a good idea, your brain is a close neighbor, it can be at risk too.

2:44 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

My ENT just told me i have cryptic tonsils as well. My boyfriend told me about two weeks ago that-he has noticed that i have recently developed bad breath. I immediately assumed it was my sinus issues (I have a cyst in my left sinus and advanced sinus disease--which was discovered after a six month never-ending sinus infection from hell)so i went to the ENT. To my suprise--- even though my sinus issues have not been ruled out, my ENT believes "cryptic tonsils" are to blame and suggested I gargle with hydrogen peroxide ( yuck!) until I can get my tonsils removed. Perhaps doing the same will help my fellow bloggers with their dreaded stinky white balls!

11:24 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Water propelling tools such as water-picks, ear-wax removal plungers (preferably unused;),even small water guns. use warm water...

12:30 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I also had this condition and resorted to getting my tonsils removed. Some doctor's won't remove them because they don't think it is serious enough. But for me I believe there was direct correlation with getting sick. But I am sooo happy I don't have to deal with that anymore!!

1:02 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

i love you guys. i am so relieved to know i am not the only one with these nasty balls. i have an appointment with my ENT next week. i knew something was wrong with me and finally an answer from my family practioner - CRYPTIC TONSILS (which by the way is the only way i even found this site). hallelujah and i agree with other fellow blogger - pray for a tonsillectomy

1:47 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

so its two am in the morning, just woke up with a chronic upset tumy, which now I am putting down to accidentally swallowing one of those nasty little suckers when trying to extract it. off to the dr tomorrow...something needs to be done about these heinous yellowy white balls..once i start q-tipping them out,i could be there for hours!! they are endless! anyone else get a sore stomach if they accidentally swallom them?:)

9:21 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

i have been getting these from time to time for a few years, [im 23] and i got one tonight and googles tonsil stones. someone said to press the tonsils so i did it and i must have had about 8 5mm lumps come out of 1 tonsil!! plus loads of little bits, it was scary...and kind of freaked me out. the tonsil is about a quarter of the size now! my right one is swollen but nothing comes out of that. i feel like i have lost a tonsil...weird.

2:54 PM  
Blogger xbrittanyxo said...

WOW I'm so happy that there's actually a name or something for these nasty stinky white balls of yuck. I've noticed them for about a bit under a year maybe..It was weird..I felt like something was stuck in the side of my throat and then I opened my mouth in the mirror to see where it was coming from then I saw this white thing..so I put my finger there to get it out and it smelt SO terrible..It's not on my tonsils though..it's on the side(wall) oif my throat before you look down..it's so gross and it hurts..i use qtips to get them out sometimes..and the qtip comes back slightly yellow and sometimes has blood on it. Is there anything else I can do to get rid of them so I'll never have them again? I'm honestly SICK of them.

4:56 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I am so relieved to see that I'm not the only person with these nasty things in my throat. I saw my ENT today and I will be scheduling surgery to have my tonsils removed - I am 34 years old. This problem makes me so self-conscious about my breath and I've finally had enough. I have had these stones for many years and they often make my throat sore and my tonsils bright red. I hope to get rid of this for good with the surgery!

11:12 PM  
Blogger adan said...

I am 51 years old and also suffered with tonsil stones. I had a tonsillectomy 6 days ago. I had tried q-tips and a water pik to remove them. I decided to have the surgery when the water pik produced blood when I was trying to remove the stones. I am healing well and should be back to work within a week. Please visit your ENT.

10:31 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I have had tonsil stones for years and have found a few things that have helped. 1) I use a copper tongue scraper (it is not painful although scraper would make one think so) to help eliminate bacteria buildup from my tongue. The stones need the bacteria to grow. 2) I use the rounded handle end of an old toothbrush to push them out. I have had them come up larger than a hominy kernel, quite disgusting, and as small as a grain of rice. I've seen an ENT and was told they are harmless, although quite a nuisance. The options for treatment are laser tonsil resurfacing or a complete tonsillectomy. Hope that helps.

5:26 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I just started getting these horrible tonsil stones. When I first discovered them, my tonsil was swollen and red. I touched it with my toothbrush and it started bleeding. When I remove the stone that is present, another one appears by the next day. I hate these things. I think i've had this issue for a while but ignored the symptoms because of my sinuses constantly draining. I go to the dr in a few days and i hope he has some answers for me. It is so bad I can taste my bad breath and water tastes nasty. My stones are lodged way up in a crevis of my tonsil, that i can't just pick them out. UGH!!!!!!!

7:35 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

WOW! I thought I was the only one who ever got these nasty things. I have been getting them for about 7 years. I have my tonsils and one tonsil is significantly larger than the other. That's the one I get the tonsil stones from. I have frequent sore throats and sinus problems also. I have a tool that was given to me by my ENT to dig them out, he recommended a tonsillectomy also, but it seems to be too risky as I am on a blood thinner because of a previous pretty severe pulmonary embolism, so I don't know what I am going to do. It's nice to know that other people get these things too.

4:01 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I too have suffered from these things for years and had no clue what they were except they hurt and stunk! I was too embarrassed to talk about them becasue I thought I was the only one that got them. They have gotten really bad over the last few monhts so I decided to search the web for what they could be. I only get them on my right tonsil, which is also the tonsil that has more problems and the one that is always more infected when I have strep or tonsilitis. I never thought I would find so many others with the same issue and an actual name for them. Thank you all very much for the information...I am making an appt with the doctor now!

9:22 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I had my tonsils removed 5 years ago due to tonsil stones at age 27. Not fun but necessary. I'm wondering if anybody else has done this but still has the stones?! I do! We have more than one set of tonsils. We can only see the large set. When a tonsillectomy is done, are both sets removed? Could the smaller set be cryptic as well and develop tonsil stones? I have one stuck in my throat and it will not come out! I have been on 2 rounds of anitbotics from my regular MD and it has cleared my sinus infection but not the stone. I'm contacting my ENT next. Anybody else now having this problem too?

12:27 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I use a q-tip (larg ones work best) dipped in listerene.

6:42 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I am glad to finally find info on these nasty little things!! My sister and I have both been getting them for years. I get sore throats all the time and ear infections constantly. It seems to take me weeks to get over any kind of cold. Maybe there is a connection. Thank you everyone for your tips!!

10:45 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I read everyone's replies and I can't help but think this "little" problem that the doctor's say are nothing may actually be a big deal. I too get tonsil stones (or whatever you want to call them), I read a couple of people say that they get sick to their stomach from them. I do too. I never felt them in my throat, but I would get a really bad sore throat when they were there. I would look in my throat to see if it was red and I would see the stones, I thought it was strep and would go to the doctor but by the time I would get there they were gone and so was the sore throat, but then the stomach problems would come. Maybe there is a connection??? Also, just something I thought about, when I was getting my teeth cleaned at the dentist they gave me a paper on how mouth bacteria can cause heart disease, has anyone done a study on this bacteria's effect on the heart. Maybe I am way off, but those little balls are pretty nasty and make me feel sick. I now know when I have a stomach issue or a sore throat it was probably because of having a stone.

7:05 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey there - I am 25, and had my tonsils out about a year ago due to ridiculously large and frequent tonsil stones. I knew I had them, and was normally able to remove them myself (unlike tonsil friendly folks here, I used a sterilized butter knife). I finally got one I couldn't remove on my own - it caused throat pain, painful swallowing, etc. I found and went to an ENT, who removed it - it was the size of a GRAPE. He even said, "that's disgusting!" and he does that for a living. He also told me that my tonsils appeared to be in a state of constant low grade infection. He recommended immediate tonsillectomy. So if you want the surgery and your doctor is hesitant, make them remove your tonsil stones and then see what they say!

2:09 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I've been suffering from this for about a year now, but I had my tonsils removed when I was a kid, I'm 26. So I don't think getting your tonsils removed will be a remedy to this situation.

11:13 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I started getting these tonsil stones when I was a teenager. I'm 21 now and they have gotten much bigger. I also get sick at my stomach if I swallow one. It's so gross. I always feel a lot better if I dig them out (and don't swallow them), BUT be careful. I got a huge canker sore in the back of my throat one time.

10:52 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I was told that getting a tonsilectomy will not make the stone go away...they might not be noticable for a while but in the end they will return. The doctor said that when they removed the tonsils, they don't remove the tissue around them and because of this, the stones will start to grow on the walls of the throat as well as on the epiglotis (sp?). My mom, brother and sister, and I get them and each of us has seen a different doctor and after much research, each has come to the same conclusion that a tonsilectomy will do no good. Just thought I would let you all know.

1:51 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Re: tonsil stones...I have found that using a syringe with warm salt water to "blast" your tonsils has been really effective. Lots of stones have come out when I do this. I didn't want to try the water pik - too much pressure I would think! Some people also "suction" them out with droppers or baby suction things. I haven't tried this yet. Also, scraping your tongue works well. I am also using a neti pot and I have had awesome results. I am no longer chronically congested - therefore, no mouth breathing at night, which was causing bacteria. I have been researching this a lot and have heard that getting your tonsils out is not always the solution and you can still get them! I recommend the syringe for sure.

1:56 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I have also heard that dairy, wheat, etc can cause these stones for some people. I also think that the crypts fill up with a large stone and then it "breaks down" and comes out in smaller pieces. I would say not to use sharp objects or metal things! Before the syringe method, I was using q-tips, end of a toothbrush, etc. This is such a bizarre topic and I can't believe how many people experience this and feel disgusted by it. My boyfriend is like "how can someone so cute have such yucky breath?" lol. My breath is instantly better after using the syringe and removing them!

2:04 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

YEAH!! Hello fellow stinky throat ball people! I have these too! Only on one side. THIS is what I do, I always check the back of my throat when I brush my teeth. Once a day I take a q-tip soaked in peroxide and gently swab each tonsil. It has kept them away for several weeks at a time. When I notice the feeling of something stuck in the throat, or see one of those white spots, I use a peroxide soaked q-tip to gently push on the tonsil and it pops the stone right out. If anyone has the little flap in front of the tonsil, gentle run a q-tip behind the flap, I had what seemed like thousands of those stupid stink bombs behind the flap!! (by the way..the straw shovel is a FANTASTIC idea!!) I have also noticed that when I get a bad aftertaste in my mouth, I can find those suckers just by pressing on the tonsil!! YUCK! My breath is a lot fresher since I started using the peroxide rub... good luck to all with tonsil stones! They are awful!

12:19 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

So glad to see Im not the only one with this. I make sure my nails are cut short, then run my middle finger under cold water and scrape away. They pop out of the crypts in all different sizes. The big ones are the best! The little ones like to get lost in your mouth. Not only do they smell real bad, they taste even worse! Im 39 and have had them for years. Tonsils are swollen like golf balls, but the docs only want to remove them as a last resort.

10:59 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Well I'm 16 and I just noticed them the day before yesterday, i was eating popcorn and i thought i had a kernel stuck on my tonsil because it was itching my tongue. well once i got it out, it wasn't no kernel it was a white ball thingy. and i looked at my throat in the mirror and my right tonsil is way bigger then my left one. and i seen more white stuff so i stuck a q-tip back there and it dipped in a whole, i didn't know tonsils have holes is them???
someone help me.

6:10 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I am a dental hygienist. Had never seen nor heard of this until a few months ago when examining a patient (teenager)what looked like pieces of cauliflower stuck all over both over-sized tonsils. Pretty disgusting. Patient seemed unaware with no symptoms. The parent was more concerned. Her tonsils were removed the next week. These stones are thought to be caused by bacteria, mucous from sinus drainage and sulfur deposits on the back of your tongue and some foods such as dairy. Using a tongue scraper, Listerine, Peroxyl rinse, Chlorhexidine rinse (prescription) may help. Also using a smooth surface like a mouth mirror to press against the tonsil arch and tonsils causes the stones to pop out rather than poking something into thse areas.

2:20 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

OH my God I have been wondering what these horrible, stinking things are I hate them and not being able to find out what they are make me hate them even more. My method of getting rid of them is simply plugging them with my finger it's really gross but im glad i found out what the are. thanks everyone for your comments and good luck with our little condition.

12:11 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I coughed a couple of these "balls" up after a nasty cold. A week or so later I coughed up two more! Then painful canker sores developed that lasted two weeks! The doctor thought it was strep and put me on antibiotics. But I didnt have strep symptoms (fever, aches/pains, etc.). I thought maybe the "balls" had something to do with it. The other day I actually picked two more out of my tonsil! This has never happened before nor have I ever noticed the holes in the tonsils before. Is this due to a cold? Why does this develop?

11:10 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

i have had those stinky white balls coming out of my throat since i was a little girl - age 4. and i still have them now - age 21. it started out as one big hole on either side of my tonsils. and every now and then one of those white things would come out. slowly and slowly tho my tonsils started to disappear. the doctor told my mom that its like my tonsils were "rotting" out. and i barely have any tonsils to this day. as a matter of fact tho i just scraped one of those white things outta my tonsil today. but at least i got out the cheap way. and didnt have to cost my mom anything to get them removed!!

2:42 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

i have had those stinky white balls coming out of my throat since i was a little girl - age 4. also, i kept strep throat a lot. and i still those white balls now - age 21. it started out as one big hole on either side of my tonsils. and every now and then one of those white things would come out. slowly and slowly tho my tonsils started to disappear. the doctor told my mom that its like my tonsils were "rotting" out. and i barely have any tonsils to this day. as a matter of fact tho i just scraped one of those white things outta my tonsil today. but at least i got out the cheap way. and didnt have to cost my mom anything to get them removed!!

read more: http://www.itonsil.com/tonsils_tonsillitis.html

2:51 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Well as with everyone else here I also have the cysts. Im 36 and up until last year didnt really notice them. I had coughed up a few in the past but always thought it was a piece of food that got caught in my throat(Little did I know). My wife had always said I didnt have the freshest breath but I brush, floss and rinse at least twice a day and just thought she was over sensitive to it since no other GF had ever mentioned it.

What I do is use a Q-tip to press the cyst out. It helps if you work from the back forward, since like others have said some can be lodged in the back behind the tonsil. Ive been massaging the tonsils every night for 6 months now and have really noticed a reduction in their formation. The left side has virtually stopped producing them, or at least slowed quit a bit, while the right is half the size it had been.

The tongue scrapper is a good idea if the cause is bacteria and I'll have to start implimenting that as well. I, and my wife, feel like my breath has gotten better and hopfully with a routine I can keep them from coming back or at least minimize them.

Good luck eveyone

-K

12:19 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

wow- So Im not a freak of nature? About a year ago I finally mentioned them to my husband & to my suprise, he has them too! We nicknamed them "siyt's", pronounced (site) for s**t in your throat. S.I.Y.T- I know, its weird! I dont know how to "pop" them off like you all say, and dont you guys gag? I gag so bad my eyes water and it is horrible. Where are the "holes" you all say they are hiding?

4:21 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

ew!

6:58 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I have had those nasty lil white stinky particles in my throat for as long as I can remember,I am 45 years old now and have used water picks ect to get them out.I am currently useing a dental pick to pry them out of the crevasses and holes on the sides of my thraot,you have to be gental as it is a very tender area and can easyly bleed,they are food particles that collect when you eat,and like anything else they start to decay and collect bacteria causing them to stink.For the longest time I thought I was the only one afflicted with this problem.I can`t say I`m happy to hear alot of other people have this condition for it really sucks,you never know when your going to have bad breath,and that is a turn off for most people, good luck to you all and keep on picking

5:52 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

HAD THOSE SMELLY WHITE PUS CHUNKS FOR YEARS UNTIL I STARTED DRINKING 8 GLASSES OF WATER A DAY. NOW I DON'T HAVE THEM UNLESS I AM NOT DRINKING AT LEAST THAT MUCH WATER.

8:59 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If you have sinus headaches, migraines, "Airplane Ears" cold, sinuses- preasure, also for my asthma. Sudafed is a type of decongestant I use.
I had to stop taking cortizone because it was ruining my bones.
(When steam from the shower is not enough.)
I do this thearapy:
You will need to boil water and pour into stable metal bowl or pot and cover your head with a towel and breath the hot steam. Set in a safe place so it does not tip over.. Near by have something to drink and tissues for wipping the sweat and blowing your nose. Have a hot drink like coffee or hot tea-or herbal tea is also good to sip while doing this..
My favorite is Berry or Raspberry Zinger tea. Alternating between hot and cold liquids also helps to drain mucus. If you have an infection you could use natural supplement-echinincea tincture or capsules with water-NOT JUICE- Twice a day (herbal remedy).
Do this the day before you get on plane, to clear mucus, or if severe don't fly at all, so that you don't get "Airplane Ear".

6:23 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

depending on the severity of your condition, there may be no need to dig things out or have a tonsilectomy. gargling with hot salt water(as hot as you can stand without burning yourself) has always done the trick for me - even if i have a very sore throat. my doc recommended i do it every day to keep the stuff at bay and it seems to work well. don't stick things in your throat, you'll make it worse.

12:47 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I am a dental hygienist and have seen hundreds of patients with "tonsil stones". I have learned that it gets trapped in what we call the tonsillar pillar (the flap of tissue anterior to the tonsillar area). I don't think getting your tonsils out would completely eliminate the issue. I get them also by the way. The water pik or oral irrigator with 'Oxyfresh with Zinc'Mouthrinse is what we recommend for our stinky ball sufferers. Frequent use of peroxide can cause a secondary infection or thrush so I would not choose that rinse and alcohol based rinses like Listerine are dehydrating in nature and have been linked to precancerous lesions in smokers and drinkers. The oxyfresh with zinc! with a metal tongue scraper will eliminate bad breath. The zinc neutralizes the odors caused by the anaerobic bacteria. The water pik used on a comfortable setting acts like a siphen, it will actually suction the balls out safely. Good luck and don't you know if you want good oral advice ask your dental hygienist!!!!

3:27 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Okay, so I feel much better now reading this...I am 25 and have been living with this condition "secretly" for about 9 years or so. I discovered it one day and it turned into a daily ritual of poking and prodding to see what happens. I do it subconsciously, too. I can't tell anyone about it, because nobody would understand. For years I have used things from q-tips, to toothticks, and fingers. And it always ends the same way...small stinky white-yellow-colored chunks that smell like cat breath and irk me. My main concern now is a small boil-like blistery thing on the side of my tonsil. Now my tonsils have always been larger than testicles, so this is totally normal. I have asthma, and have been getting sick very frequently throughout my lifetime. I am happy to know that now I may have found the reason why. But back to the bump: Can anyone tell me what this is? I think it's something that formed from constant flesh pushing and unnatural desire for the foreign "stones" as which they are called. Nothing helps. It does not hurt, but it's irritating to know that this bump is not going away. I was going to talk to a doctor, but I can probably find out what it is right here, and I'm doing it for free, haha. Any tips on how to remove this? It's fleshy and peach colored and feels as if its filled with fluid. Like I said, it doesn't hurt, and if I press on it, I don't feel anything.
Can anyone help me? Is this at all a concern that I should address? I am a hypochondriac and always dread the worst..but now I can level with other people who have this strange "secret" like me...
Thanks, hopefully someone has an answer!

3:57 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey, this product helps prevent my tonsil stones from coming back as frequently: Toms natural Tartar Control mouthwash. It fights the plaque from building up. ( No, I don't work for them.) Nice to know others share this disgusting problem -

4:44 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Dr. told me what these smelly balls in the tonsils are. They are tonsilloliths or tonsil stones. Apparently they are a "normal" thing its just that not all people get them. There isn't any particular cause or cure. You can continue to dig them out if you want she said. But they'll keep coming back its from built up bacteria so I told her what if I gargle with listerine 2x day. She said it could help & to try it. Though I did notice the last post I read someone mentioned a toothpaste that really helped. Anyway, I was so relieved to find out there was nothing abnormal wrong, there's nothing that I'm doing to make them & probably not much to make them go away! Good luck!

7:12 PM  
Blogger antster said...

i use a mirror, long toothpick, and a steady hand to get rid of mine. if you leave them out overnight they will get really hard and tiny.

5:31 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hello there!
Yeh, I used to get this and was always getting chest infections, tonsillitis etc. It was "normal" for me to get these 5-6 times a year. Very annoying. I spoke to my doctor who agreed to let me have the tonsillectomy operation. Since then I have not had any problems.

Tonsills are part of the body's (lymphatic) immune system. They are responsible for "catching" bacteria and other bugs which the body would need to fight. Lymph is a white milky type fluid which runs in capillaries all over the body. White blood cells are responsible for "phagocytosis" or killing bacteria/bugs like pac man. The tonsills are there to assist the body's immune defence system. Why tonsills turn cryptic, this I cannot answer, but I hope that the above information helps you understand. Kate the Vet Nurse.

9:05 AM  
Anonymous Evanapolis said...

Well, I'm not sure if this person checks this frequently, but the blistery pus thing is an abscess. I actually just read about while looking for this page. Here's the page.
http://www.webmd.com/a-to-z-guides/peritonsillar-abcess

I'm a bit of a hypochondriac too, so I'm sort of thinking about getting my tonsils removed to prevent this.

I've lived secretly with these stupid stones too. I just recently told my mother and my boyfriend about them and they looked at me like I was crazy. My boyfriend insisted that tonsils did not have folds in them. I'm glad this is more common than I thought.

3:19 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I see that someone experienced the same issue I did. I too noticed these small yellow stones in my tonsils, and at times was successful at poking them out, while other times they were simply lodge to far in to get out. I finally went to an ENT and was told of the problem. It's been not quite two years and I am now experiencing the same issue. So although they advise one to get their tonsils removed, this problem can resurface.

8:14 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The yellow balls are actually "Tonsilloliths" Lith meaning stone. Typically a tonsillectomy should take care of the problem..i.e., the tonsillar crypts are exposed after the ectomy so particulate matter doesn't get stuck and attract bacteria. The foul odor comes from sulphurous compounds produced by bacteria.

7:07 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I am so happy to finally know what in the world these things are! I didn't dare describe them to anyone else because I thought they would think I was nasty. Finally I told my friend about them because she has sever sinus issues like I do. She said that she had them too! I thought they were related to the fact that I have almost constant post nasal drip due to allergies. Thank you so much for posting all these comments so I don't feel like such a freak! :)

5:10 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hello!

I had continual strep throats for many years. I found my tonsils were catching the food particles, and bacteria as everyone here has been discussing, and developing those nasty stone like things. I finally got my tonsils out at 30. I have to tell you, they say tonsilectomy is a hard operation as you grow older...That is the understatement of the year! I wanted to die, I was in so much pain! I didn't want to swallow my own saliva, never mi