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Friday, October 24, 2008

Barack Obama on Health Care
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WebMD asked Sen. Obama some questions about his health care plan. Below are his answers.

[Editor's note: The answers below were either provided by the senator or sanctioned by him. These are the opinions of the Obama campaign only. Though edited for WebMD style, the answers remain untouched. WebMD does not endorse any specific political party, candidate, committee, idea or belief.]

1. What is the core principle of your health care plan?

On health care reform, the American people are too often offered two extremes -- government-run health care with higher taxes or letting the insurance companies operate without rules. Joe Biden and I believe both of these extremes are wrong, and that's why we've proposed a plan that provides affordable, accessible health care options for all, makes insurance companies accountable, and ensures patient choice of doctor and care without government interference.

I believe that by ensuring all Americans have access to affordable and quality care that focuses on improving health outcomes, we will be able to reduce health care costs and ensure that America remains the most productive nation in the world.

2. Your plan is estimated to cost $60-$100 billion a year. In light of recent economic upheavals in this country, the war, and more, is it realistic to think you could get funding for this plan (especially if Congress doesn't overturn Pres. Bush's tax cuts)?

One of the things that I have said from the start of this campaign is that we have a moral commitment as well as an economic imperative to do something about the health care crisis that so many families are facing.

My health care plan is fully paid for by helping reduce wasteful costs in our health care system, including ending wasteful subsidies in the Medicare Advantage program and allowing Medicare to negotiate for prescription drugs, and ending the Bush tax cuts for the wealthy.

After enacting reforms to reduce federal health care spending, my plan will cost $65 billion per year, which will be fully paid for by rolling back the Bush tax cuts for Americans earning more than $250,000 per year and retaining the estate tax at its 2009 level.

I believe that it is entirely realistic that Congress will work to fully fund this plan because the economic costs of continuing to let our health care costs spiral out of control are simply too high for American families and American businesses.

3. How will you encourage people to buy health care without a mandate, especially the so-called "young invincibles?"

My plan will expand the number of easy, attractive options for young adults to get coverage. I will create new tax credits for health insurance coverage for those Americans who cannot afford health insurance on their own, which will help younger workers who often make less than the average worker.

I will allow young people up to age 25 to continue coverage through their parents' plans, providing an easy, affordable option for young adults to retain portable health insurance as they switch jobs and attend college and graduate school.

And by allowing all Americans access to new easy-to-enroll portable health care options, I believe young workers will finally have the information and health insurance options that they lack today that will allow them to become insured.

4. What is the main distinction between your plan and Sen. McCain's?

Joe Biden and I have proposed a comprehensive plan to reduce health care costs for American families and ensure that all Americans have access to quality, affordable, and portable health insurance.

In contrast, John McCain has blocked efforts to expand access to health insurance and reduce health care costs. Instead he has proposed the same failed Bush approach to reform health care. With his health care proposal, John McCain has advocated tearing down our employer-based health care system, which will leave insurance companies in charge with little oversight or attention to improving Americans' health and mean higher taxes for American working families over time.

John McCain's radical transformation of the insurance industry will throw 20 million Americans from their current health insurance plans to a deregulated individual market, provide an inadequate tax credit to pay for quality health insurance coverage, raise administrative costs up to $20 billion per year, and do almost nothing to reduce the number of uninsured Americans.

By recycling George W. Bush's failed health care policies, John McCain is guaranteeing another four years of record cost increases and insurance industry profits while more and more Americans lose their health insurance because of skyrocketing prices.

5. How would you handle spiraling health care costs?

My plan invests in eliminating waste in our health care system, expanding coverage to all Americans to reduce the cost of uncompensated care, and picking up the cost of some high-cost cases from employers. Health care experts have projected that my strategic investments and reforms will save businesses $140 billion per year in premiums and $2,500 for the typical American family.

Specifically, my plan will:
  • Increase health IT [information technology] investment, which will reduce unnecessary and wasteful spending in the health care system;
  • Provide reinsurance for catastrophic cases, which will stabilize if not decrease insurance premiums;
  • Improve prevention and management of chronic conditions;
  • Increase insurance industry competition and reduce the abusive practices of monopoly insurance and drug companies; and
  • Ensure every American has health coverage, which will lower spending on the "uncompensated" care of uninsured people who end up in emergency rooms, where their care is needlessly expensive and paid for by Americans with health insurance through higher premiums.

6. How important is prevention to your plan?

Covering the uninsured and modernizing America's health care system are urgent priorities, but they are not enough.

We believe that protecting and promoting health and wellness in this nation is a shared responsibility among individuals and families, school systems, employers, the medical and public health workforce, and federal and state and local governments. All parties must do their part, as well as collaborate with one another, to create the conditions and opportunities that will allow and encourage Americans to adopt healthy lifestyles.

My plan will promote public health by requiring coverage of preventive services, including cancer screenings, and increasing state and local preparedness for terrorist attacks and natural disasters.

7. How does your plan address pre-existing conditions or people with chronic health conditions?

I will require insurance companies to cover pre-existing conditions so all Americans, regardless of their health status or history, can get comprehensive benefits at fair and stable premiums.

8. How big a role do you see the Internet and technology playing in health care in the future?

One of the ways my plan will improve efficiency and lower costs in the health care system is by adopting state-of-the-art health information technology systems. Most medical records are still stored on paper, which makes them difficult to use to coordinate care, measure quality, or reduce medical errors. Processing paper claims also costs twice as much as processing electronic claims.

My plan will invest $10 billion a year over the next five years to move the U.S. health care system to a broad adoption of standards-based electronic health information systems, including electronic health records.

We will also phase in requirements for full implementation of health IT and commit the necessary federal resources to make it happen. We will ensure that these systems are developed in coordination with providers and frontline workers, including those in rural and underserved areas.

We will ensure that patients' privacy is protected. A study by the Rand Corporation found that if most hospitals and doctors' offices adopted electronic health records, up to $77 billion of savings would be realized each year through improvements such as reduced hospital stays, avoidance of duplicative and unnecessary testing, more appropriate drug utilization, and other efficiencies.

SOURCE: Sen. Barack Obama campaign.

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Posted by: Sean_webmd at 1:45 PM

74 Comments:

Anonymous Rafael Moscatel said...

Here's another perspective from www.moscatelassociates.wordpress.com

"We need to put health care records online. The V.A. does that. That will -- that will reduce costs." - John McCain.

For a maverick who openly admits not knowing how to use a computer, it came as a bit of a surprise to me in the last debate to hear that John McCain KNOWS it's a good idea to put health care records online. Aside from the obvious invasion of privacy violations that such a policy would undoubtedly create, the idea that it would reduce costs is highly doubtful. It basically amounts to a handout of government contracts to document management companies, possibly in the billions, with absolutely NO proven cost/benefit analysis from his campaign.

In addition, has it occured to Mr. McCain that health records are kept by doctors, insurance companies, hospitals and employers? Is John McCain proposing that they all just head down to Staples, buy their own scanners and hire their own extra staff to scan, index, catalog and maintain hundreds of millions of pages of pages of records. What software does he propose everyone use and does he know how much those systems cost? And who exactly will coordinate this operation, or mission... the Department of Earmarks?

You'd think people in my business would be absolutely thrilled about this baseless assumption. And you're probably right. But I think this cuts to the very heart of this campaign because I don't need a handout in the form of a government contract. I need a government that realizes it already has a contract to the American people to "think" before they speak about businesses that they have no understanding of whatsoever.

I'll make this perfectly clear. I believe wholeheartedly in scanning and imaging as a practical and necessary tool for the smooth and efficient handling of an office's day to day workflow. However, the notion that putting documents online reduces paper-output is erroneous.

Take the law profession for example. Before computers, attorneys drafted only a few copies of pleadings, contracts and correspondence. They did this because of the time involved in editing errors and mistakes. Legal professionals today have the benefit of editing a document as much as they want because of computers. As a result, they print out many more documents and increase the demand for paper, which has devastating effects on the environment as well.

Having worked for government and in records management for the last ten years, including as the Records Manager for Trucker Huss, a venerated Employee Benefits firm with some of the most respected HIPAA attorneys in the world, I feel I am entitled as say "Raf The Records Manager" to call him out on this.

The HIPAA law, while achieving some of its goals to fight against identity theft and abuse, was nevertheless a multi-million dollar donation to the tech companies that were enlisted to execute the specifics of the law. The cost to law firms and corporations to restructure their records polices and procedures was unnecessary and unwarranted.

The blacking out of names and social security numbers on patient records and other documents may have sounded like a good idea, but tell that to the thousands of medical office managers around the country. That HIPAA requirement as well as a number of others impeded office workflow because it was designed by politicians who had absolutely no input from actual end users or the individuals their law would actually impact.

If John McCain really wants to save some money on records management, maybe he should ask a records manager, a librarian, a file clerk, or ANYBODY who actually works with records for advice. Or maybe he should ask "Joe The 72 year old Doctor" or "Tito the 55 year old Nurse" how they feel about putting down their pens and paper and buying a machine they don't know how to use instead.

Records are kept best, and records management overhead costs are kept lowest when organizations and government departments avoid gimmicks like "the paperless office" and take a more thoughtful approach to managing their information, and the information of others.

October 25, 2008 10:24 PM  
Anonymous Cola said...

Unfortunately I am not a fan of Universal Health Coverage as Obama is. Why should my tax money go out to give free health coverage to Illegal Immigrants or unemployed people when I have had to pay for it my whole life? Not an Obama fan, and this is part of the reason why. Just goes to show yet again lack of experience and judgement.

NoBama
Nohow
Noway

GO MCCAIN!!!!

October 29, 2008 2:34 PM  
Anonymous Frustrated Free Thinker said...

I am not sure if COLA, who posted above this realizes that their tax money already goes to programs such as Medi-caid, which is set up to fund those in need. But, working in admissions at a hospital and signing those who have no coverage up for such programs as Medi-caid, I have been REQUIRED by law to sign known illegals up for the program and have seen them in here since then, on full coverage Medi-caid. As well as illegals, I see the constant abuse of Emergency Room services for issues that could be prevented with something as cheap as a bottle of Robitussin. Might I also mention the patients who constantly show up, searching, almost begging for prescription pain medicines, although all tests run show no signs of pain? I wish there was a reality to not paying for illegal immigrants...But there is not. As long as we are the working, tax paying citizens, we will be constantly putting our hard earned money into these funds. But, I do not agree with Universal Coverage. With the constant financial troubles that our economy is in, along with the steadily BOOMING population growth, installing any form of Socialized Health Care system is a task needs to be looked at. People need to stop watching and reading mass media coverage. They need to start thinking for themselves. Socialized Medical for Americans would take multitudes of years to properly instill itself as any viable part of our healthcare as a society. I think that someone...somewhere, needs to take a look outside of the two options that are placed in front of us by our candidates, and propose an honest, working CHANGE.

October 29, 2008 7:22 PM  
Blogger Nutmeg said...

Having read both candidits plans, I have to say that I think rafael's comments apply more to Obama than to McCain. Reading Obama's answers, I could find very little that told me exactly how he thought his plan would work, whereas McCain's was quite clear. It also is much more closely related to what the AMA's proposal is.
Having been a nurse, I know that doctors want everyone to have access to affordable health care so that they (the doctors) can treat all who come to them and still be able to make a living. Between Medicaide/Medicare and HMO/PPO plans, many doctors are really struggling to make ends meet, especially new doctors.
Being dissabled by a chronic condition, I also know that a government run health care program is THE ABSOLUTE LAST THING WE CAN AFFORD TO HAVE! Because I'm on Medicare, I can't afford to pursue the health care opptions that would actually make me better. I can't even afford to go to the doctor nearly as often as I need to just to manage my condition. McCain's plan would increase an individuals options in getting the type of care that will actually make them better because they can choose a health plan that covers the options they want. Obama's would cost even more, and would even more severely limmit my ability to get the kind of care I need. And did you notice how badly Obama misrepresented McCain's plan? Not to mention the fact that he used a lot of "winning" phrases that had absolutely NO SUBSTANCE!
Sorry if this isn't coherent...part of the disability is a brain injury...

October 30, 2008 12:58 AM  
Anonymous Working College Girl said...

McCain was quite clear on what he is going to do. I think that it is fair and objective. I as a working young person also going to college full time, have my own healthcare because I am not lazy. I am tired of throwing my tax dollars at people who choose not to work. It seems to me that Obama wants almost a communist nation and im not going for it. Vote smart, Vote McCain!!!

-Working college girl

October 30, 2008 2:34 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I agree with Nutmeg and Free Thinker. I too have been on the admistrative side of Health Care in Admissions and I think McCain's plan is a very good start.

I ditto everything you observed by working in admissions. Which is why I have a hard time "spreading my wealth" I am all for having something for those who really need it. Not the abusers. Now thats topic that should be included in someone's policy. FRAUD and ABUSE. that will reduce health care.

I worked for the very first HMO in Miami many years ago. I learned then that I did not want to be trapped in a system that gives no choices. Managed Care patients need to be a small percent of your patient load or you stuggle to pay the bills and payroll.

Many physcians are not refusing Medicare and Medicaid patients because of the low reimbursements that are way too low. i just heard that in Anchorage Alaska NO one is taking Medicare and patients HAVE TO go to the E.R for routine refills like, BP medications, Diabetic supplies. WHERE is the cost savings there! The hospital just passes it on in their charges.

As far as digital records GREAT! I now own a document scanning company that contracts with physicians to scan their documents. we can custom set up the documents just like it was their charts. Staff scans any "incoming" as received. All documents are scaned as a PDF. PDFs can not be altered! Last client we scanned over 300 bankers boxes of achived records. Stored now on a CD/DVD or online storage. There is transitition and someone always wants to print. What they saved in storage for one year paid for the program and equipment! Under Health Care and Education. There should be a program that will help pay back student loans for doctor, nursing and other specialized medicine areas. On the payroll with respectible pay. Loans paid off with a 5 years commentment in rural, county, veterans and or indian hospitals/clinics. This has been tested and it worked. We recruited a desperately needed Ortho and we were all happy by the deal and he stayed on after the 5 years!

October 30, 2008 3:02 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

None of your comments address the real issue and that is controlling healthcare costs. Healthcare costs are spiraling out of control and is the number one reason for bankrucpy in this country. We need transparency in provider quality and cost so that consumers can make educated choices on providers. We need to stop fraud and abuse which goes on every day and most of it is never caught.
Electronic records and liability reform are often picked by politicians for saving money but neither has worked in any state to reduce costs.
We need to ask large employers to provide healthcare for their employees so that they don't end up at the ER at taxpayors expense.
To many healthcare companies and providers are getting rich off the current system and their lobbiests are everywhere.
If healthcare is not fixed, medicare will go broke and our employer groups will continue to pay less and less.

October 30, 2008 11:43 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I agree with Nutmeg, Free Thinker and Cola. I am also not in favor of a Government run health care system. If you check the country's that offer a government, such as Canada, run health care you'd see that many of the people many times have to wait months to have procedures done. Why would we want to give up the right to choose?

October 30, 2008 11:52 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The problem with those of you claiming that Obama supports a universal (ie. single payer) health care plan? He doesn't?

I'd love for one of you to explain how it's possible for you to leap to universal health care from a proposal to open access and affordability to all across the spectrum of many health plans.

And yes. I am in complete support of everyone having affordable health insurance. It will save the country money in the long run.

October 30, 2008 12:22 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

European Health Care System decides who, when and IF patient's will get the medical procedures, especially surgical procedures and, of course, the elderly are at the bottom of the list if they are put on the list at all.. Life begins at conception and should end at God's appointed time, not determined by someone's "CHECK-OUT'
list. Putting health care records online might be a good idea but Out-sourcing the work to other countries has put thousands of our medical support staff out of work.

ONE WHO KNOWS!

October 30, 2008 12:41 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

McCain's "plan" would only do to the health insurance industry what his support of deregulation did to the financial industry - wreck it for everyone. I have employer based health insurance. Under McCain it would be taxed. Oh,I'd get a credit. But $5000 isn't going to buy health insurance for my husband and me. We have "pre-existing conditions." No insurance company is going to cover us. And even if we didn't, $5000 doesn't buy health insurance. It's way more expensive than that. Ever look at how much the insurance company execs make? They aren't going to take any pay cuts to make McCain's half-baked ideas work. They'll cherry pick who they will cover (and it isn't going to be anyone with a pre-existing condition or over a certain age).

McCain/Palin is good at scaring people and making the rich insurance companies even richer, but not much else. The Obama plan would allow my employer to continue to offer me the same insurance options with no taxes (funny how the Republicans keep accusing the Dems of being tax and spend when it's the Republicans who want to tax our healthcare benefits and allow the insurance company executives to spend our money). The Obama plan would offer options for those who don't have employer based health care.

People who are working but whose employers don't offer health benefits would be helped by the Obama plan. People with their own small businesses, students, people whose jobs have been shipped overseas - they would be helped by the Obama plan.

Who is helped by the McCain plan? The insurance companies. I'd rather help those who need it than the fat cats.

And to all who are blaming everything wrong in the world on immigrants - where were your grandparents born? I know I'm not a native American. You should realize you are in the same boat. Quit letting the haters turn you into someone who scapegoats immigrants for every problem. It's not the immigrants who are screwing you out of your money - it is the insurance companies.

October 30, 2008 1:26 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I am a 80 year old senior citizen and now I have heard it all. OBama has sweet talked his way to be president with no experience, no record of achievements and a very questionable background for those who will open their eyes. He say he has a medical plan, he will reduce cost and everyone will be covered. ARE DOCTORS GOING TO WORK FOR LESS PAY?? He also said he will approve 12 million illegal aliens for auto license and social security. More health cost. His health care program plus many other costly program mean one thing, "Where is the money coming from" His answer is he will raise taxes on the rich and those large companies making a profit. DID ANYONE TELL HIM THAT THE RICH NOW PAY 90% OF ALL TAXES COLLECTED?? DID ANYONE TELL HIM THAT LARGE COMPANIES SUCH AS EXXON HAS MILLIONS OF FAMILIES WHO LIVE OFF THEIR DIVIDENDS?? THERE ARE A LOT OF THINGS HE DOES NOT TELL US AND SOME OF US ARE NOT SMART ENOUGH OR JUST BLIND TO THE FACTS.

October 30, 2008 2:31 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Thank you too (80 year old) I am 46 years old been with a company 24 years and have no college. Better yet, I grew up in the projects. Did I use that for an excuse? NO WAY! Was it a battle to get where I am at? You bet! Did I get discouraged and quit, want people to feel sorry for me, GIVE me free handouts? Heck no!
I have to work for what I have and I expect "others" to do the same. Under Obama's leadership "others" will be given what ever they want on a silver platter and I will be taxed even more for "others" to have a free vacation .... from now on.
If you are American and have worked for what you have then you understand the fruits of your labor are a direct result of what you have put into it (blood, sweat and tears). Why on earth would you want to vote for someone who wants to give away the farm (America) as Obama does?

October 30, 2008 2:49 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Right now, this minute, countries as different as France, Japan and Ausralia cover all their citizens, providing primary care to all, at costs about half per capita what we pay, while doing as well, or better, on every last measure of health.

Health care for illegal immigrants might mean, for instance, that if your daughter sits next to one on the subway, or one cleans your house, your daughter might not catch drug-resistant Tb. Health care for the poor might mean, for instance, that someone underemployed and working their butt off in three jobs providing no benefits might be able to get children vaccinated.

It can be done, demonstrably, and it should be done, for the most practical and selfish of reasons, in addition to the fact that it's the decent, humane thing to do.

And McCain's plan, which would tax benefits, while providing tax credits that wouldn't cover an average policy, would do nothing to control costs, or increase access to care. It would be a license for insurance companies to consolidate across state lines and make more money in a more favorable regulatory environment. It's bone-crushingly stupid.

ProfWombat

October 30, 2008 3:46 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

profWombat's comment is the most intelligent one in the entire section.
People who work in the health industry would agree with him, And I agree with him too.
Nation who have universal health care system provide health care to every citizen in half the cost of what America provides right now.
And prevention for everyone, illegals or citizens is essential.
Check out statistics on WHO and CDC to confirm the facts.
Obama's plan is smart, and is better off in the long run.

October 31, 2008 6:28 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"European Health Care System decides who, when and IF patient's will get the medical procedures, especially surgical procedures"

Who do you think is making the health care decisions now? Not you or your doctor. It's the Utilization Review people at the insurance companies. These people don't have a medical degree or your best interests at heart. They are there to protect the insurance companies' profits. And there have been way too many documented cases where the insurance companies have withheld life-saving procedures and/or medicine, because they can out-wait someone who is dying. Never use the argument that having broad based health care coverage takes away your rights. You gave up most of them to the insurance companies a long time ago.

John McCain just wants you to give up the rest - give your money to the insurance companies and go away and die.

November 1, 2008 11:31 PM  
Blogger tgw said...

All I heard from Obama was more political Hocus Pocus. He definitely didn't spell out in detail any clear cut plan like McCain did. His answer to every question on every issue is a mass of generalizations that say little with a few McCain is a Bush clone claims tossed in.

November 2, 2008 7:31 AM  
Blogger Kelli said...

I am a nurse (x 24 yrs.) and fulltime college student. The state of our healthcare system has declined greatly in the years I have been a nurse. I have seen so much, to include a woman die of breast cancer in a homeless shelter (yes she worked) and her insurance company cancelled her. I have taken care of many vets coming home from these wars with PTSD and are homeless...the VA and John McCain has done nothing to help. I am attending college right now to become an Art Therapist, and because of my health conditions my insurance company (Humana) dumped me. I intended to start my own business after graduation, now I guess I am forced to work for someone else. Guess the American dream is only for the fittest.
I voted Obama. He knows what is really going on in our health care system.

November 2, 2008 11:41 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

ProfWombat understands. McCain's plan will give more to the insurance companies who have a vested interest in keeping health care where it is ... escalating.

We have a responsibility to ensure that everyone has access to healthcare. We end up paying for the disenfranchised anyway with continuously escalating healthcare costs. Why do you think costs are so high?

November 2, 2008 11:51 AM  
Blogger Dabble58 said...

Hello from Canada -
Everything that has been studied about the US health care service has said it is the most expensive and does not address the needs of most of the population. My American relatives are afraid of losing their jobs because if they do, they lose benefits, and since they have pre-existing health conditions, cost of getting new insurance would be huge, if they were accepted at all. Here in Canada, I don't think we have it right yet, but at least I know, with my recent diagnosis of MS, I can be hospitalized if I need to be, I can get the meds that I need, I can be looked after at home eventually if I need to be, all paid with my tax dollars. (and others'). I don't mind that my tax dollars have , until now, gone to help others less fortunate than I.
Maybe it's the weather up here or something, but the idea of paying taxes to support the greater good sounds pretty logical.
And I've never understood the rationale behind the "I've worked hard to get to where I am so I shouldn't have to help anyone else" thinking. Anybody who "makes it" does not do it on their own. There are always helpers somewhere. I like the idea of universal affordable coverage. But the docs must be told to take on these patients, or have to pay higher premiums themselves.
Sorry. I work with the poor and disenfranchised here and I get a bit cross when docs, who are the most advantaged among us for the most part (except insurance company and HMO execs)feel they "don't want to look after" a bothersome or cheaper client. Hippocratic oath anyone? Turning people away from care simply because they don't pay enough is doing lasting harm.
Selfishness abounds. It disgusts me.I'm glad I returned to Canada, where the thought of helping others isn't so repugnant. What gets me is that Americans are in general the sweetest most helpful people about, but don't you ever touch those tax dollars!

November 2, 2008 11:53 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

these want to be and soon to be presidents and senators are all full of it they sit up there tell lies to the country that they can change this and do that they are so full of it when they actually get into office there is so much red tape and paperwork and then their fat salaries and everything paid for they don't even care about the people in this country they just tell lies to get people to vote them in so they can benefit and the people of this country are left out we are like mushrooms they leave us in the dark and feed us BS and we just keep believing their lies the rich keep getting richer and the poor keep getting poorer that is how it is always been and always will be and the american vote doesn't account for nothing as we have seen with the gay marriage thing over 200.000 voters voted against it and a superior judge over ruled us and now gay marriage is going on and people are going to vote again on this issue the US is a love/hate country you love it for the stuff you can do but hate it for the stuff that doesn't get done and the lies that are told to get there another one joe the plumber he voiced his opinion and now the media is digging up dirt on him so what if he doesn't have a plumber's license he still has his own business and worries about the economy just like everyone else with every presidential election comes more lies it just comes down to who can tell them better and get more people to believe in them and cast their vote for the best liar

November 2, 2008 12:01 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Trust me people, very few Healthcare Providers are for Universal Healthcare. Under Obama's plan, Physicians are going to have to start making house calls and won't be able to afford to see Medicare and Medicaid patients anymore. Do you want that to be you? McCain has the better plan. Use your brain and vote McCain!!

November 2, 2008 12:05 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Vote for the cure! Vote for Obama!

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November 2, 2008 12:16 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

For those of you taht are supporting Obama....why? Give me ONE good reason to vote for the man. I agree he has nothing to support his qualifications to run our country!
When is he going to produce a LEGITIMATE Birth Certificate? When will he prove to me that he has lived 35 years in America?
If he does everything he says he will do, how will he acomplish that?! On our backs, with our money and with higher taxes and fewer benefits. Not to mention what will happen to Social Security! People, PLEASE, wake up to the fact you will be giving up our rights and our country to a man that talks smooth and says NOTHING!! I am already helping to support a grown son, disabled, whose checks aren't enough to buy groceries much less support him!

November 2, 2008 12:25 PM  
Anonymous Bruce said...

Obama's plan "provides affordable, accessible health care options for all."

The key word here is "all". That's code for non-workers, illegals, and anyone else he deems acceptable.

Michelle Obama is a high paid administrator of a hospital here in my home town of Chicago. Her own hospital will not treat people without insurance. She sends them to decrepit clinics.

It scares me to think Obama will take care of me. He only cares about the votes he'll get by giving something anway for free.

November 2, 2008 12:30 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

My husband is a NON wartime veteran. He did serve in the military police and was discharged honorably. When our vets signed up to protect our country they were promised to be taken care of for the rest of their lives. Then along came John McCain who promoted a bill which passed and states if a veteran was not in the VA system by 2003 they can no longer qualify to be a part of the VA system, unless you were a wartime veteran and if not you do not qualify for any health benefits. We worked for companies who offered health care after his service to our country so did not burden the VA for benefits thinking we were saving the VA money. Now that we are no longer working for companies and my husband could use some help as he has Parkinsons and early dementia the VA will not allow us to enter the system as we were not a part of it by 2003. So much for saving our VA money. There are 5 million veterans out there faced with the same situation. So much for McCain supporting veterans. He should be ashamed of himself.

November 2, 2008 12:37 PM  
Blogger Sara said...

It is a shame that the American people have not taken the time to educate themselves on the issues of health insurance. I can say this because I have a total of fifteen years experience in this field. Regardless of the cost of health insurance and tax credits, there is a disaster in the making if John McCain's plan were to be adopted. If the insurance industry is deregulated on a state level and the current mandates that are in place for each state disappear, YOU will no longer be protected and assured that the preventive care you receive and is paid for by your insurance company will be there for you. Do yourself a favor and educate yourself by researching the mandates in your state. I believe you will be surprised to learn that the mandates are in place to protect YOU, not the insurance companies. Obama's plan is very clear if you understand what is at stake. It's an extremely well thought out plan that can and will work and save all Americans money and provide affordable and quality health care to us all.

GO Obama!!!!

November 2, 2008 12:45 PM  
Anonymous Bruce said...

What wrecked our financial system was our own corrupt dems giving away money to people who were never going to pay it back. And if they didn't give the money out, acorn would agitate and call them racist.

Lending companies then got greedy and said, "Alright, you want us to loan, we loan." Boy, did they loan, 5 trillion dollars that won't be paid back.

You think I trust these dems to run another big program? NOT!!!!

November 2, 2008 12:46 PM  
Anonymous puppywalker said...

have anyone out there ever read and been scared by the writings of Ayn Rand? too late now but she saw the welfare states proposed years ago

November 2, 2008 12:49 PM  
Anonymous Rick said...

To our Canadian friend: How long do you have to wait to see your doctor? Or go to get an important surgery done when it shouldn't wait at all? Why do so many Canadians(I've personally known quite a few)come down to the States for surgeries and other procedures they would have to wait for, who knows how long in Canada, they get done here in a heartbeat, if your Universal Health Care System is so great? If I needed cancer surgery(which I do and am having it the day after the election)would I have to wait till it metastasized in Canada when I'm getting it done within a couple of weeks of detection here, without needing chemo afterwards because of the early detection and surgery?
I'm asking because I want to know, not because I am being flippant or "smarta**ed" about this. But I want to know.

November 2, 2008 12:52 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

so far, all I read in Obama's plan is socialized medicine. Everyone (who works) pays for everyone else. We do enough of that already...welfare, medicaid, etc. If we aren't careful with our vote, we'll soon have no vote at all....think Cuba 1959....think Germany 1936. Have we forgotten what Castro and Hitler did to their countries? Hello? It can happen again! America is no longer home of the free. It's home of the taxed and oppressed. The more we are taxed, the more the government controls US! Why do you think democrats want to tax the hell out of us. They want total control of our lives and dictate what we say and do. It's called indoctrination and it has been seeping into our lives slowly for the past 50 years. VOTE MCCAIN!! VOTE FOR DEMOCRACY!!!

November 2, 2008 12:53 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I would love to have free health care, especially because I have a chronic condition, but illegal immigrants and people on welfare should not be able to get it. In fact, get rid of all the illegal immigrants or give them the obilgation to pay. It's not fair for the rest of us who work for our health care and can't afford it.

November 2, 2008 12:54 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Obama is SO WRONG on this and other issues. More spread the wealth. Take better care of such as his illegal immigrant aunt in Boston (and how many other of his family) while he has millions. Twenty three percent of American legal citizens CHOOSE NOT to buy health insurance. Add to that the 5 million illegals. I pay my way and my family pays their way (yes, as working citizens). I do not care to continue to carry others on my dollar or add more to my tax load.

November 2, 2008 12:55 PM  
Blogger BarbaraJ said...

What is wrong with your people? This man they call Obama is a man without character. It is unbelieveable that you are fooled by him. He will lead us into destruction. Think of all the things you DO NOT really know about him? Our country is in grave danger if he is elected to office of President. Look at his wife? Look at her? She is not first lady material. Reading his "plans" for this country, I am amazed that he can say so many words and actually say NOTHING! IF this man is elected, and God Forbid that really happens, then the American people who voted him in, deserve everything they get. We are being taken for a ride by the Democrats. He is a wolf in sheeps clothing. Why do you not see this? He is a liar and a no good. I will pray for you who have no idea what your getting into and just wonder what the media will do when his lies and half truths are revealed. Give it time, give it time, he will be found out! Fools all of you who are for Obama!

November 2, 2008 1:02 PM  
Anonymous blking74 said...

Maybe we can reallocate our funds that cover our own people under Medicaid, and stop paying for these illegals who don't care enough about our country to get a job, create their own income, and pay taxes. Instead, we'll treat them in our hospitals, keep track of which country they "belong" to, and send their country a bill every year. Oh, and we can stick em on a bus or plane after they get treated too and send em home. Maybe that will make them stop taking advantage of their free medical care they are currently getting!

November 2, 2008 1:07 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

WATCH THE MOVIE SICKO BY MICHAEL MOORE BEFORE ADDING MORE COMMENTS. THE HEALTHCARE SYSTEMS IN CUBA, FRANCE, CANADA AMD NORWAY FAR EXCEED OUR BEST DAYS.

November 2, 2008 1:08 PM  
Anonymous Isabella said...

Obama is DEAD WRONG in regard to the Universal Health care issue. We would be paying for Illegals, and lazy nonworking people. I am NOT willing to do that !!

November 2, 2008 1:10 PM  
Blogger Kelli said...

Dabble58 you are right...everyone I speak to in other countries who have universal health care say the same thing. The big business folks love to spread the rumor that universal health care is bad. Why? Because they will lose big money. The insurance companies are robbing people, the pharmaceutical companies release medications that THEY KNOW have terrible side effects- all unregulated like Wall Street. It is all about money. The greed of these companies has gone unchecked. Our health care system is so fragmented (due to the insurance companies)it is truly a nightmare. Greed has replaced integrity. It is more than sad.

November 2, 2008 1:17 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What are you talking about that our drug companies are "Unregulated?"

The FDA regulates the drug companies. It is part of the federal government. The federal government CAN"T even regulate businesses properly and you want them to operate and own the health care system? Just like fannie and freddie were regulated by the feds. They couldn't even do that right.

Why do people think our government can do anything honestly????

November 2, 2008 1:37 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

To BarbaraJ:
What are you talking about??? I know just as much about Obama as I do McCain. I respect McCain for his service to this country; but we are supposed to be electing a president; not a hero. As far as Michelle Obama is concerned...what about her makes her "not first lady material"??? Is it that her skin is not white? Cindy McCain has a past drug problem...Michelle Obama does not. When I see Michelle and Barack with their children; I see caring and love. When I look at Cindy McCain, I see an unintelligent Barbie doll wanna be that stands quietly in the background like she's arm candy or something. I am not a welfare bum or an illegal immigrant...my husband and I both work full time and we can't afford to pay for our family health care plan his employer offers; it is just too expensive. Under Obama, at least it looks like there may be a way to afford health insurance for us. We are not lazy and work very hard to make our measly income. It is unfortunate that we live in a country that denies us health care because we can't afford it. My husband's employer is constantly downgrading his coverage to get a cheaper rate; which in turn lowers the coverage. All this does is line his pocket more; while punishing his employees. Handing bigger and better tax breaks to small business owners does NOT end up helping their employees. All it does is help to line their pockets even more. I have Rheumatoid Arthritis; so even if we could afford the coverage through his employer; they wouldn't cover my "pre-existing" condition. Under Obama's plan; the insurance company would not be able to deny my coverage.

November 2, 2008 1:41 PM  
Blogger Kelli said...

Isabella- what do you suppose that we do with people who have seizure disorders who cannot drive because there are no medications that work to keep the person seizure free? What about mental health care? Can a person with schizophrenia come work at your job? Or the Vet that the VA is not taking care of and is having flashbacks and hypervigilence, who cannot even sleep at all. Can they be employed by you? Just curious as to what you think we should do about people who are unable to take care of themselves?

November 2, 2008 1:42 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Neither plan is perfect. But Obama's plan will bankrupt this country faster than it already is being bankrupted...and then what will we have? Health care is a responsibility and not a right to those who are not completely mentally or physically disabled. I work hard to provide the coverage for my family. I wish the coverage was better, cheaper, but I will not rely on a failed government to provide my health needs. My past illnesses/accidents have nearly bankrupted me, I can't stand the stress it has put on my family. However I know a government run system will not provide the best health care for my family. Please vote for Mcains system...unfortunately it is the lesser of two evils.

November 2, 2008 1:43 PM  
Blogger Kelli said...

God forbid if any of you were between jobs (and could not AFFORD Cobra coverage) and had a car accident or heart attack, and had no health coverage. This happens every minute in this country. I guess then you would expect us doctors and nurses to shove you out the door and say too bad, we cannot see you?
Because coverage is so expensive patients have been using the ER as their main health care provider. ER visits are expensive. It would cost less to provide universal coverage than the "nothing" that is now in place

November 2, 2008 1:58 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Obama again just tells us what he is going to GIVE us, but not how. He never clearly spells out HOW he is going to do anything. We don't really want Socialism do we? Sounds great - doesn't work. What incentive do people have to work, when the government takes care of everything for them? And how many young people will want to be doctors under his system? I have worked in health care for several years, and many people are already taking advantage of and abusing our systems, like Social Security/disability, Medicaid. etc., while I work 40 hrs plus to make ends meet, and pay their way also. As usual the democrats want to take more of my hard earned money and then tell me what is best for me.

November 2, 2008 2:16 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I have worked in the healthcare industry as a Director of IT and CTO for the last 10+ years. I can tell you that many health care providers are moving to electronic records as fast as they can, but are constrained by the cost...you still have to pay salaries and bills. Obama's estimate of 10 billion dollars is rediculously low and can only include a portion of the overall costs.
Rafael Moscatel has it right when he laments "...buy their own scanners and hire their own extra staff to scan, index, catalog and maintain hundreds of millions of pages of pages of records. What software does he propose everyone use and does he know how much those systems cost? And who exactly will coordinate this operation..." Making this change is a process, not a project. There are literally 100's of billions of documents and pieces of information such as lab reports that must be converted. And which records do you convert, only the new ones, or only the younger patients, or all records? How will all the different providers get access to these records securely? There are thousands of doctors, dentists, health providers, and labs accross the country, many of which have parts of your records.

November 2, 2008 2:19 PM  
Anonymous blking74 said...

And one more thing, the majority of the people want Bush out of he White House because this country has gone to crap since he's been in office, however, who do you think is making all the decisions??? DEMOCRATS! Why does George Bush get blamed for it all? Because he was given the job to be accountable for it all, which is fine, but people need to give credit where "credit" is due! He needed approval of Congress to do many of the things he's done. Americans obviously need to learn more about our government if they are going to take on the responsibility of putting some radical in office.

November 2, 2008 2:36 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I work in health care and if you think McCains plan will work for the average working American you are crazy. Mccain's plan is to tax your employer sponsored plan and give you a 5,000 credit. On average health care coverage for a family of 4 is 1,000 per month or more. Individual plans cost more. The rich will be the only ones that will have health care. I hope to God McCain isn't the next President!

November 2, 2008 3:21 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

blking74 Wow, that's some stretchy gushy logic there. For six years, the congress and white house were in the control of Republicans. The majority of the damage was done in those years.

The Dems have a one-vote majority and have been filibustered on everything they want to do for two years.

So yeah, those darn Democrats must really be power brokers, huh? Doesn't anyone actually bother with facts?

To those of you claiming Obama is about universal health care, please read. You couldn't be more wrong.

November 2, 2008 3:29 PM  
Blogger Kelli said...

Yes and lets not forget: John McCain and the VA are not taking care of all the vets they sent over to fight an illegitimate war and they are coming back sick and with PTSD and getting NO MEDICAL CARE.
And Mrs. Cindy McCain and her Percocet and Vicodin addiction. She STOLE these narcotics FROM HER OWN NOT FOR PROFIT organization.
As far as anyone knows she still has not been through treatment.
Like I am going to trust them in the White House!!

November 2, 2008 3:34 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Reading the comments on this site really saddens me. I can understand reasonable people differing on how to provide affordable healthcare but some of the comments I have read are just shameful.

Joe the Plumber as a victim? He is not a business owner and as an unlicensed plumber he has to work for someone who is licensed. He has hired a publicist and indicated he wants to make a country music album. His comments of late reveal his lack of knowledge on important issues. Even Fox News has taken him to task.

The First Amendment really isn't there to protect any one faction from criticism. One very important functon of the "Fourth Estate" is to investigate public figures and matters of public interest.

The rediculous madeup issue of Obama's birth certificate was laid to rest some time ago. He was born in Hawaii. The last time I checked Hawaii was just as much a part of the US as Alaska is.

Bruce you comments make little if any sense. Acorn had absolutely nothing to do with the current economic crisis in this country. They are an organization that promotes registering people to vote. Please tell me at what point the "dems" took over our banking industry and Wall Street? Did I miss the revolution?

I have been a practicing CPA for more than 38 years. In that time I have worked with mostly wealthy people but I have also prepared returns for a lot of "average Joes." A very select few actually did or could have lived off the dividends they received. The necessary investment is way beyond the average American.

To mock the health plans in Canada and Europe just plain puzzles me. The US is way down the list on life expectancy and infant mortality. By all standard measures we trail almost every Western country and we are getting worse instead of better. I am at the mercy of my insurance company. I have to get their approval for medical procedures and yes, I have to wait to see my doctors and to get procedures performed in hospitals.

John McCain's prosposed plan may have some merit. At this point however, I cannot in good faith vote for the man. At one time I considered McCain a good and honest man but his campaign has sullied him and caused irreparable damaage. The vicious attacks, the lies, the half-truths and the exaggerations are just disgusting. I really expected better from him.

November 2, 2008 3:34 PM  
Blogger Kelli said...

Republicans had 4 yrs. of a Presidency and majority in congress. Why did they not enforce the border between Mexico and the US then? Cheap labor that is why. If they wanted illegals out they would have done so and they would not be here eating up medical dollars.

November 2, 2008 4:02 PM  
Anonymous Mr Independant said...

I have read the postings of both candidates and of all you good people that have made comments. I am disappointed that not one of you has recognized the real problem. The number one problem is that we have presented to us two political solutions. The second and maybe the more serious problem is that you people, the voters, have accepted this and jumped on the bandwagon. I see much more of a “Rah, rah, rah for the home team” than a real consideration for the U. S. A. to get it right.

Health care is too important an issue to let it be a political football. The real concern of the political hierarchy is ‘what can I promote that will give my party political clout and undermine my opponent’. On the one hand we have the ‘Great Uniter’ which implies working with all people and on the other who claims to be the ‘Reach Across The Isle’ champion. I see no evidence of this in either proposal. Your comments indicate the affect has been just the opposite. The plans are divisive.

What we need is:
1. For both parties to agree to take this most important issue off the political table.
2. Appoint a non-polical commission of health care experts, economists, and private citizens to device the best possible and affordable health care system and an implementation plan. I know this is terribly short on detail but must keep it short.
3. submit this system without modifications by inexpert political interests to a national referendum for an up or down vote.

America has the innovative talent and ability to invent something better than anything that exists in the world. Let’s give them a chance. The politicians will never accept this without your demanding it.

Mr. Independent

November 2, 2008 4:47 PM  
Anonymous righton813 said...

Medicare administration cost about 3% overhead. HMOs cost 25% or more. Why can't medicare administer everyone's healthcare. We shouldn't need to add a layer of administration (HMOs) to our healthcare. I see different levels of coverage that Medicare would administer based on what people can afford. The elderly and disabled paid into the system if they worked "on the books". If legislators would keep their sticky fingers out of the till, Medicare et.al would be fully funded. Children should be guaranteed a flat rate for health coverage, administered by Medicare. There would be several levels of coverage for every other AMERICAN, based on what they can pay. Healthcare should not be taxable!!! Illegal aliens are just that: illegal. They should not be tolerated and catered to by adding a second language at taxpayers expense. Hospitals in California have gone bankrupt for those free services. I am paying more in premiums for Medicare every year, my doctors are receiving less, and if I am hospitalized, that's it for my finances. There have been years that my medical expenses are half my income. I just do not see why the Mexicans are not building up their own land. Don't they have oil? And why are politicians telling us what kind of alternative fuel we're going to have. That should be up to the scientists. What we really need is a third party: the Constitution party so we can return to America's roots. Legislators failing to obey the law is abominable. They swore to protect and defend, but allow invasion. We need less government, a review of the laws on the books for their constitutionality, job descriptions for legislators and a thorough investigation prior to their candidacy. Right now, it's a game of who has the most money. That is corporations, and that is what's getting represented. Cola has a valid point, but I was taught that a wealthy country should take care of its weaker citizens to reduce crime, improve overall health (no TB patients on the streetcorner), and dignity for those who helped build and maintain America during their working lives. My business degree and information processing experience tells me that online health records is not going to make for cheaper healthcare. I keep my own records. And we don't need online systems that can be hacked into for political mudslinging. One more thing: tax breaks do NOTHING for the poor who are not paying taxes.

November 2, 2008 6:35 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Let's keep our freedom of choice and keep the government from running (or ruining) our health care. Since when is health care for everyone our responsibility? I guess ever since it has been our responsibility for those that cannot afford house payments to have the house anyway. thanks to Freddie and Fannie and the dems. By the way, for those who complain that McCains plan would only cover half their health insurance, why are you cmplaining about half priced health care?? Sounds good to me. Take responsibility and the tax credit and work for what you get and be thankful for a break. I am in advertising and work with businesses all the time. Competition is good for business.

November 2, 2008 6:58 PM  
Blogger Goo said...

Anonymous,
Your facts are inaccurate. "Joe the Plummer" does not own his own business. He simply works for a plumbing company and hopes to be able to purchase the business in a few years, is not licensed and owes the IRS back taxes. Welcome to the real world. He's a looter just like his sponsor, John McSame. Did you know John McCain was involved in the looting of the Savings and Loan banks of the late 80' early 90's? Look it up and watch the video of the Keating Economics. Everytime the republicans create a pile of dung for the American people to waddle in, the Democrats have to come along and clean it up. FDR, Clinton... look how Bush squandered the surplus left by Clinton and is leaving American in absolute shambles and total disgrace in the eyes of the world. that's what the Republicans are best at, telling lies and fooling the people while protecting the wealthy. Those criminals should be ashamed of themselves and put in jail for the atrocities they've committed on the less fortunate.

November 2, 2008 7:05 PM  
Anonymous MN RN to be said...

We are the only first world country that does not provide healthcare access to all of its citizens. We have the highest infant mortality rates and lowest average lifespans of 1st world countries despite spending the most (mostly on bureaucratic administration).

Universal healthcare is NOT socialism. We would be providing healthcare access to everyone, not telling them who they can and cannot go to (which is done now by the insurance companies). It is also not out of the question to structure a program which would provide basic healthcare to all while allowing buy up options for higher services or faster services. We could pay for the basic services program by eliminating the administrative costs in needing to create bills and appeals for 500 different insurance companies, whose job it is to deny services as best as they can.

November 2, 2008 8:29 PM  
Blogger gigi said...

I would really like to learn how Mr Obama proposes to IDENTIFY the "extreme healthcare waste" he is always bringing up. Does he think HE has some ability that other very capable folks who have BEEN working on that area do NOT?? Sounds like a big empty promise to me!

November 2, 2008 9:11 PM  
Anonymous OK RN said...

All of us are in agreeance that we need a better healthcare system. I have been in healthcare for over 20 years. One of the factors that has run our costs up is all the lawsuits that we see flying around that are so ridiculous and they actually win. Has anyone read the Sheila awards for the most outlandish won lawsuits? Kind of like the woman who sued McDonalds because she didn't have sense enough to know coffee was hot and didn't take precautions, burned herself and then sued McDonalds because she burned herself. Or the young couple whose baby had a birth defect and they blamed the doctor for a genetic thing and sued him. Then you have the insurance companies who tell the hospitals what a normal stay for a hip replacement or pneumonia instead of trusting the doctors good sense and they get sent home too early and wind up back in the hospital because they had complications or a relapse. I know the systems aren't perfect and that doctors and nurses have lobbied for years to tell congress how things could improve and lower health care costs. Of the proposals offered it sounds like McCain has listened more to the medical profession. We all have to make our own decisions based on our own feelings which is what I intend to do. I won't vote because of the party it represents or otherwise. I'm tired of mudslinging. I will vote for the person that I feel is the most qualified for the job and I hope every other american will also.

November 2, 2008 9:58 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Mr. Independent suggests the 'business world' approach, with admirable eloquence, and apparent experience. I too, am from a background similar to his. However, I have a nagging feeling about a committee to propose a solution. How many committees actually reach a workable solution? At some point it has to be recommendations from qualified participants, then the CEO utilizes those findings & prepares the best possible program(s) that can be used with whatever restraints are the real limiters. e.g. money, overview, setting the rules & regulations, available staff needed, etc, etc. At least it is 'real' data coming to the decision maker, and that would be a switch, not politically tainted or motivated. We don't have to reinvent the wheel.

November 2, 2008 10:15 PM  
Blogger BarbaraJ said...

Anonymous: From BarbaraJ
To answer you - You see what you want to see about Obama or more like what the media and the Dems WANT you to see. Why are you so convinced that Obama is the "true savior?" If the media would have stayed out of this campaign and let the "voters" which is "us" find out about the two candidates, the true winner would have been McCain - NOT because he was a hero, but because he is a good man. Obama is NOT! Look at how many unanswered questions there are about him and his life. The media dropped the ball and because of their "weird love" for this guy, dropped the ball on all unanswered questions. That is why I say we will find out, unfortunately, when it is too late, all about this man's hidden life and problems. What about his pastor, his aunt that is an immigrant, his grandmother that we no longer hear about who was gravely ill, his Muslim/Terriorist friends, his birth certificate his so called "friends" that are of illrepute? On and on and on I could go. Answer those for me! Answer me - THIS is the PAST of a FUTURE President that you want leading this country. What is the media going to do when HE IS the President and what - NOT let us in on what is really happenning in our country. I'm telling you just wait and see. If you truly read his supposed "plans" Obama says nothing at all. Just a bunch of words. Exactly what the Dems say about McCain, but look a little and listen a little closer. It is Obama that is spouting empty promises. As far as my comment about Michele Obama - wow, you suprised me. Your comment about Cindy McCain "I see a Barbie doll" - is that not racist or what? YOU sir are the racist NOT me. YOU made a racist comment - NOT I. And, as far as what you said about working hard for your money - so do I. Do you not see that you will be working just as hard and NOW with OBAMA'S plan be giving more of that money away to people who DON'T WORK. Can you not see Socialism here? Don't be blinded by the word Change. Sometimes the word Change sounds good - but think of the consequences of that Change. The media and the Dems have you sewn up in a little package called Obama and now all of Americans who are under their "spell" will have to pay the price.

November 2, 2008 11:31 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

To barbaraj - Stop drinking the koolaid!

What's the problem with Michelle Obama? Doesn't she spend enough on her clothes? Are her children too well behaved? Is there a problem with her family – a father who worked hard his entire life who died of a terrible disease, a mother who instilled values into her children, a brother who is a well-respected basketball coach at a major university? Or would you prefer her to have a family member who is part of a terrorist group that advocates the violent overthrow of the US government like Todd Palin? Maybe some don't like that Michelle Obama thinks military families need and deserve better treatment? Cindy McCain is a terrible role model for our young women. Steal drugs and sleep with a married man! Did you forget that McCain and Cindy had an affair while he was married and that he dumped his first wife? Yes, I thought so. Cindy McCain represents so much that is wrong.

Michelle Obama represents so much that is good and decent. She is an educated woman who works hard, cares for her children, and her community. Cindy McCain is a drug user who stole from a non-profit organization and slept with another woman’s husband. I would much rather have an intelligent, thoughtful woman as First Lady than a drug abusing thief.

But you keep drinking the koolaid (what's the flavor of the day- Drugde? O'Reilly?)…

As for Barak Obama - he was born in America (yes, Hawaii is just as much a part of America as Alaska). He doesn't pal around with terrorists. William Ayers was a member of the Weather Underground 40 years ago when Obama was a child. Ayers is now a noted education specialist at the University of Illinois at Chicago. Ayers and Obama were both asked to serve on a committee by the Annenbergs - Republican friends of John McCain.

Professor Rashid Khalidi (an American born in New York), director of the Middle East Institute at Columbia University in New York is not a PLO spokesman, no matter how many times Sarah Palin lies about him. Have you ever read anything he's written or said? Oh, and by the way - during the 1990s, while he served as chairman of the International Republican Institute (IRI), John McCain distributed several grants to the Palestinian research center co-founded by Khalidi, including one worth half a million dollars. I wonder which candidate really has closer ties to the honored professor.

But I'm sure there are those who don't care. They really don't want answers. It really suits them better to keep drinking the koolaid and complaining. It's just like that old lady who said that Obama was an Arab. Even after McCain corrected her and said no, Obama is not an Arab (and so what if he was?), she still was sure of it. Why? Because it suited her to believe it. It's easier to keep drinking the koolaid than to stop, think critically and see the light of day.

The Obamas are a fine couple who I would be proud to have in the White House. And I think picking Joe Biden is an excellent example of sound judgment. Cheating on your wife with a drug abuser who steals and choosing someone so ill-suited as Sarah Palin (yes, brains do matter) shows a lack of character and the poor decision making skills of John McCain.

November 3, 2008 2:37 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

FYI there’s a discussion going on about these issues now (Oct 27-Nov 3) at: www.thenationaldialogue.org

It’s called the National Dialogue on Health IT & Privacy. On the site, you can contribute ideas, and read and rate others’ ideas. Watch in real time as the best ideas “rise to the top.”

The results of this online dialogue are being compiled into a report to the Federal CIO Council, Office of Management and Budget, and the incoming Administration by the National Academy of Public Administrators. **
Hope to see you there,
Roz @ The National Dialogue

November 3, 2008 3:10 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

All of you complaining about paying with your taxes for the healthcare of illegals and lazies, did you ever think that you are actually putting money in the pockets of the shareholders. Healthcare insurance and hospitals should not be for profit.The caretakers should be paid a decent wages.
The Canadians have it right. Why can,t our country emulate some of the "lesser" countries health care which is so much superior and for affordable premiums
I have moved out of the US exactly because of the healthcare, my AARP healthcare premium was going up every 6 months. Here in Europe I have excellent care, any doctor I want specialist, eye care hearing care and teethcare. and paying affordable premium which ALL goes to my care...Smoke that one.

November 3, 2008 5:53 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I agree with Mr. Independent. As a Healthcare Administrator, I feel both Obama and McCain are missing the point. Uninsured individuals is a huge problem. But unless you're part of the business, it's difficult to describe how complicated and complex the entire system is. Starting with how doctors and hospitals get paid. Do people understand how many employees a health care organization has to hire just to submit bills and collect money from insurance companies and patients? Let experts in the fields form a commission and provide recommendations to the next President.

November 3, 2008 9:18 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

My comment is not about Obama or McCain. My comment is about WEBMD. After reading the comments you CHOSE to post it is quite clear that WEBMD is leaning towards McCain rather than being neutral. I clearly see comments that sway people to McCain and yet the comments about Obama are deragatory. Once again another company has used the net to put unneccessary fear into people by SEEMING to be neutral. This kind of fear tactics needs to STOP!

November 3, 2008 10:54 AM  
Anonymous National Dialogue said...

FYI there's an important discussion going on about these issues that ends
TONIGHT:
www.thenationaldialogue.org

It's called the National Dialogue on Health IT & Privacy. On the site, you
can contribute ideas, and read and rate others' ideas. Watch in real time as
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November 3, 2008 1:15 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

to BarbaraJ who finds mystery and deception in her lack of knowledge about Barak Obama and made the crack about Barak Obama's grandmother - "his grandmother that we no longer hear about who was gravely ill".

She died of cancer yesterday. And maybe the reason you didn't hear a lot about her after Obama visited her is because she and the family wanted some privacy. Nothing sinister, no conspiracies; just a desire to allow a woman the dignity of a death without gawkers.

I think your insinuation that her health issues were somehow not real was extremely tasteless. I hope you have the decency to feel some shame.

November 4, 2008 10:40 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Those of you who voted for Obama. You get what you ask for and voted for. Good Luck, I'm moving to Costa Rica.

November 5, 2008 1:14 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Didn't Obama at one point during his stumping say we would get the same health care as he and McCain receive as Senators? Foreign service workers now receive their health care and meds for $104.00 per month. (The cost actually was lowered this year.) When do we get ours? He and McCain probably get better coverage than even that. Imagine all the federal workers who get this type coverage. No wonder the could care less about those who are not federal employees. We are paying for all those people with our taxes.

November 5, 2008 6:07 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'm 62 years old and lost my job in jan or 2004. I suffered a low back injury twice on that job. As a result, I'm am unable to do any of the jobs that I had done previously. Since then, I have applied for Social Security Disability. I've been waiting to be approved. My wife's income is rapidly being eroded by all of the greedy big bankers and insurance companies. When we purchased our home in 2000, we were well above the income requirements for a home in the price range we chose. It's a simple 3 bedroom rambler. Nothing fancy at all. We had hail damage to our roof 3-1/2 years ago and because an insurance company made a false accusation of there being mold in our home, we have not been able to have our roof repaired and are not allowed to purchase the type of full coverage that would have allowed the replacement. I wish I had the money to move to Costa Rica too. I used to think this was the greatest country in the world. But because of all of the apathy of our population, I'm becoming thoroughly disgusted with the direction our country is
going. I'm broken down financially, and emotionally. To all of those who think Obama is your savior, I hope you reap your just rewards. I think that you have made a large mistake.

November 5, 2008 6:45 PM  
Anonymous elizabeth72 said...

I am amazed at all these people named "anonymous". Are you afraid to give a name? If you are not afraid to speak up then do not be afraid to identify yourself.

November 6, 2008 3:03 PM  
Blogger Sommer said...

I admit that in most respects I am a republican at heart. But, I DO know this ... our current health care in this country needs a radical change to work. I am a stay at home Mom and my husband and I have been on both spectrums of income levels. A few years back my husband was pulling in more then 100k a year and all things were fine ... but our insurance premiums through his employer were over $800 a month!!! When we were making money that was fine ... but when the economy landed us with a job that no longer paid ... even WITH his crappy insurance ... we used up everything we had in Savings on medical costs for me during a complicated pregnancy. When his job finnally didn't even bring in enough to qualify us as middle income class ... he knew he had to find a different job. Forget COBRA ... we couldn't afford that. And, I have had complicated health and have been in the hospital through much of life ... and with my pre-existing conditions there wasn't a private insurance company that would even except me. I was black-balled. The only way I could get insurance was through an employer or if we had our own business. My husband tried his hand at a business that did OK ... but we couldn't afford the $1,300 dollars a month premium it would cost us to have insurance through our business ... the ONLY way I could be insured was to have our own business and have business coverage .... but it was WAY too expensive. We didn't bring in enough in our business to cover business costs, supporting our family ... and insurance. So what did we do? Instead of going into debt we risked it and went without. Then we racked up about $20,000 worth of medical bills from me having to unexpectedly go into the hospital ... and now considering bankruptcy! Our current system does NOT work. My husband now works 2 jobs and more then 80 hours a week at jobs that still don't even bring in enough to support our family. We rarely see him. But the American Dream is IMPOSSIBLE for us because we MUST have insurance. Is that fair? No. I repsect both McCain and Obama ... I feel they are both good men at heart. I also fear that both of them could make monumental mistakes in the white house. There are things that Obama supports that turn my heart cold ... such as his belief in partial birth bortions and how he fought BAIPA. HOWEVER, we NEED his health care reform plan. He is NOT for Universal Healthcare and the Government running everything. He justs wants to give everyone a fair shot at insurance. What is so worng with that? Also, I agree with the Canadian ... I have no problem with my tax dollars helping others. At times we ALL need help. When we were making great money, I wanted to help others. Now that we are making hardly anything we need help. My husband is NOT a bum. He is a hard working man trying to do what's best for his family ... and he married a woman such as I that has serious health issues. $5,000 in tax credits wouldn't do squat. But good coverage would mean that I can start taking my seizure meds again and my children can see the doctor when they are sick. Do people realize that my seizure meds ALONE without insurance would cost more then $900 a month??? That is just for the prescription ... I need this, but cannot afford it unless I am insured. I know I am ranting ... and for that I am sorry ... but there is a great deal of good in Obama's plan of health care reform. And McCain's plan would bring just more problems for those that aren't insurable.

November 7, 2008 5:50 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Are some of you blinded? You do not acknowledge each other's arguments but instead fight against each other.

The President is thinking of everybody and yet you reject the body of our nation.

Right now, any plan has a loophole in it. Some cannot afford, others can afford.

The root of this is money. We should focus on prospering our economy rather than giving it away for free.

We also forgot that this foundation was built on the Bible (The Old Testament).

Some believes that we have given away our freedom by covering the truth. "Truth will stand the test of time." but now the nation is against the foundation of this nation.

However whoever is the government, we need to be FOR our nation and not against our nation.

Obama won. Imagine a heart broken is half. Let's stop breaking even more the very heart of America and begin the process of healing the broken heart of America.

I was for McCain, but I am not going to rebel against the body of my nation.

Dan

November 25, 2008 10:02 PM  
Anonymous Bill said...

President Obama is a very smart man. He has the intelligence and political skill to drastically improve this country on both the domestic and foreign fronts. It a civic duty for all of us, no matter our political stripes, to welcome and support our new president and to give him a chance...

April 24, 2009 4:30 AM  

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