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Monday, September 10, 2007

Do You Want to Spare Your Daughter a Colposcopy and LEEP?
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Between 50%- 75% of adults will acquire some type of human papilloma virus (HPV) if they are sexually active. This is particularly likely if they, or their partner, have had more than one partner. The FDA has recently approved the first vaccine (Gardasil ®) which prevents HPV infections linked to cervical cancer, abnormal PAP smears, and even genital warts. Here are some points to consider if you are thinking about immunizing your daughter - or yourself.

Who Should Get Vaccinated?

The FDA has approved Gardasil for females between the ages of 9 and 26. The greatest number of persons acquiring HPV are young women 15 to 24 years old. The vaccine is most protective for women who have not yet become sexually active. Thus, if a woman is virginal the vaccine might still be given if she over 26 years of age.

Acquiring the virus when a teenager is particularly worrisome. In a young woman there is a proportionally larger area of a more delicate, vulnerable tissue (glandular epithelium) on the face of the cervix. With time this tissue is replaced by squamous epithelium which provides a thicker protective layer—more like our external skin. Viruses are opportunists. The mild tissue trauma of intercourse coupled with a more fragile cervical skin could make it easier for the virus to gain entry.

One well done study by Ho and colleagues (1998) followed older adolescents over three years. At the end of the study some 43% became HPV positive. This confirms the ease with which HPV can be passed between sexual partners. Surprisingly, of this group of newly infected women, only 9% continued to show persisting evidence of HPV. In many cases, especially with the "low risk" subtypes of HPV, a competent immune system can appear to clear the evidences of viral infection. Yet HPV can be acquired and be "dormant". Then, in times of a lowered immune function (e.g., pregnancy, chronic illness, or use of immune suppression drugs), dormant viruses such as herpes and HPV can produce significant infections.

Which Vaccine Should You Choose?

There are more than 30 types of HPV which are sexually transmitted. These have been classified into "low risk" and "high risk" subtypes. HPV subtypes 6 and 11 are considered to be low risk. They are linked primarily to the cauliflower-appearing genital warts, and low grade cervical lesions (eg LGSIL, CIN 1). Subtypes 16 and 18 are considered to be high risk as they are linked with persisting HPV infections and severely abnormal PAP smears. These two high risk subtypes are the probable cause of about 70% of cervical cancers.

The currently available Gardasil vaccine provides protection for all four of the HPV subtypes mentioned above. Another vaccine, "Cervarix" will likely be available in the near future. The Cervarix vaccine has been shown to protect from HPV high risk subtypes 16 and 18. Both vaccines have been shown in large research studies to provide 100% protection for the high risk subtypes.

OK, What Are the Downsides to Getting an HPV Vaccine?

Both vaccine require a series of three injections spread over a six month period. Currently it is not known if a booster shot would be needed when the woman is older to help keep her immunity at a protective level. Studies are ongoing to try and answer this question

While most major insurance companies are hopefully going to cover the cost of this vaccine, paying for the series of injections would be $360.00 if paid out of pocket. If a low income young woman is covered by the Vaccines for Children Program, this vaccine is paid for by the program.

Gardasil is a non-live virus type of vaccine. It does not contain the controversial ingredients thimersol or mercury. There is not enough long term data to suggest that it can be given during pregnancy. There are several medical conditions (eg immune suppressed) where a vaccine may not be as effective.

Like many other immunizations where an injection is required there is the trauma of getting "a shot". The most common side effect of this injection was redness and swelling at the injection site—this was experienced by about 25% of subjects receiving the vaccine. Other less common side effects were soreness or itching at the injection site, or low grade fever.

Are You Going to Get This, Jane?

Alas, I am too old, and have had too many sexual partners over my early life. But if I had the opportunity I would certainly do this. My parents had me vaccinated against smallpox. This was considered routine at the time. Some countries routinely vaccinate for tuberculosis. I believe all parents have to consider the pluses and minuses of giving preventative vaccines to some pathogen their child may never encounter. HPV is an infection that a majority of persons will contract. In my professional opinion this vaccine offers advantages to women not yet sexually active.

For more in depth information consider reading this report from the Centers for Disease Control (CDC): Recommendations of the Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices.

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Posted by: Jane Harrison-Hohner, RN, RNP at 11:21 AM

13 Comments:

Blogger Mary Marcdante said...

Jane, thank you for your insightful report on the HPV vaccine.

You mention that you’re too old for the vaccine; however, even though you may be older than the recommended age for the vaccine, it is equally as important to know about and get the HPV test with your Pap if you are 30 and older.

There’s a great site with really helpful information at:

http:www.theHPVtest.com

Women over the age of 30 are most at risk for cervical cancer and it’s the most easily prevented cancer IF you get tested with the right tests regularly and early enough. The HPV test actually identifies the HPV strains that cause cervical cancer, so you can find out if you have a problem even earlier than if you only have a Pap smear.

As a 11 year cervical cancer survivor, I didn’t have the benefit of the HPV test. If I had the test along with my Pap, the cancer would have been discovered long before I needed a hysterectomy.

Please get the test and tell all the women you know to do the same. It can save your life.

Gratefully and enthusiastically alive,

Mary Marcdante
Women’s Health Advocate
Speaker and Author of:
My Mother, My Friend
Living with Enthusiasm
www.marymarcdante.com

Sep 14, 2007 11:16:00 AM  
Blogger Jessica said...

Jane,

In Febuaury I went in for my yearly PAP and my GYNO said I had a small bacterial infection, and she was going to test me for HPV and I had no idea what that was. I was scared and I did not say anything to my fiance yet because I did not know what it was. I did my research and found out what it is. So when I went back in to be seen she told me I had HPV and that she wanted me to have a colposcopy. I was like why? She explained things to me and let me tell you it is very uncomfortable. I later found out my results in 4 days when they tell you about two weeks that I had pre cancerous cells on my cervix and I was scared, and it had to do HPV had no idea. Because I do not have insurance I had to go through the state of california and go see a a different GYNO who was going to remove the cells and preform a LEEP. I couldnt do it in the office so I had to wait 3 1/2 months to have it done in the OR and its so uncomfortable and the next month after that. I wish the vaccine was available. I have to have PAPS every 2-3 months to make sure. If you have the oppurtunity to get the vaccine get it. Read up on HPV become aware. Going through all these procedures is not worth it and its painful and uncomefortable. Its good you posted this because younger girls need to know and see what we have to go through not having the knowledge they have available to them now.

Sep 19, 2007 12:06:00 PM  
Blogger Bart and Paula Wakeman said...

I had a positive HPV result from an annual pap 3 years ago. My dr. basically told me it was like an STD and that husbad HAD to have been with someone else for me to have gotten it. I went home and SCREAMED at my husband b/c he had told me I was his first! However he is a very truthful and trustworthy person and he swears up and down that he has not. I have not been with anyone else either. After looking on the internet for some info, I found a little known fact that it is possible to be a carrier of the hpv virus. You can infect your partner even if neither of you has been with anyone else. We need to be telling people about this also, so that realationships are not ruined b/c people are speculating affairs are going on. I have had several people tell me I should leave my husband b/c this HAS to mean he HAS been unfaithful, but I believe him.(Thankfully my strain was not one of the ones that can cause cervical cancer and I have now had 2 negative paps.)

Nov 19, 2007 3:38:00 PM  
Blogger CF said...

I was looking ion the internet but you can pretty much find any answer you're looking for there... even if it's not actually true. So I was wondering.. Is it true that it's possible to contract HPV through something other than sex, or even genital skin to skin contact? I've seen "facts" on toilet seats, hand to hand, hand to genital. What of this is actually true? or is it only sexually transmitted unless you're born a carrier?

Dec 10, 2007 4:58:00 PM  
Blogger dragonflybee said...

Yes, could someone please QUANTIFY how many years the virus can lay dormant? You always see phrases like, "HPV can lay dormant weeks, months - even years", but don't scientists/doctors understand that marriages are riding on this??? Ten years ago I was diagnosed with precancerous cells on my cervix; after 2 freezings (not painful) they were gone, but the damage had only just begun. I had been married to my high school sweetheart for 20 1/2 years, so the first words out of my mouth when my doctor told me how I'd gotten it was "How long can it lay dormant in your body?". Of course he said it would depend on your immune system, but he said usually 2-5 years, possibly 10 years or more, no one really knew. When I asked if it could stay dormant for 20 yrs., he didn't really think that would be possible, but he wouldn't rule it out! Well of course my husband denied it, and I believed him... but that seed of doubt was planted. We really tried to work things out, but after 10 years of doubt, we just couldn't go forward. Our divorce was final this past Tuesday.

I FINALLY got the HPV test for the first time w/my last pap. It came back negative, but it did show markers for HPV 18, which my doctor explained meant that I had this particular strain at some point years ago. Not a lot of help, really!

I had the perfect marriage for 20 years, I really did. If I had a daughter, I would DEFINITELY have her vaccinated - sometimes what you know hurts much more than what you don't know.

Dec 15, 2007 3:29:00 AM  
Blogger Goldnjewels said...

Just to fill you all in....Back in the 80's I rented a house with 3 other people. We were not sexually active together, not in the least little bit. But, I contracted genital warts from them which later I found out that 2 of them had. My guess is that I got it from sharing the same shower, and bar of soap. So, HPV can be contracted without having sex.

Sep 10, 2008 7:30:00 AM  
Anonymous Michelle from rochester ny said...

I have the HPV virus. I've had to get 3 colposcopies and next tuesday I am getting the LEEP procedure. Colposcopies are not painful. Little uncomfortable but not painful. I could've gone back to work the same day I just chose not to. My results have always come back as stage 1. This last time it came back stage 3 which is the final stage before it turns into cancer. My doc said it could've come from any partner or any of their previous partners and that theres no way to know.

Sep 4, 2009 7:42:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Three years ago I went in for my annual pap test and found out I had HPV. My doctor wanted to monitor it closely, so I returned in 6 months and it was still present. After two more visits with positive results, the disease had begun to spread a little in my cervical area, so I had a LEEP procedure performed. After reviewing the results of that procedure, I was referred to a gynecological oncologist who examined the results of the LEEP and said the area affected was located at the top end of my cervix closest to the uterus. He recommended I be proactive and have a hysterectomy (I was 50) to prevent the spread of the pre-cancerous cells into the uterus and ovaries. I elected to have a complete hysterectomy in order to alleviate any potential risk for a recurrence. Boy, was it a surprise 2 years later to find out my HPV has migrated south to the vulva. Still pre-cancerous mind you, but nontheless scary. I have a biopsy scheduled in 3 weeks to determine if I have more to worry about (benign or not). After reading a ton of articles about vulva cancer, I'm not so sure this is as benign as some doctors make it out to be.
Once again, no symptoms, just a routine pap with the same gynecologist who found it the first time...ladies, it is important to remain vigilant about those annual exams!

Sep 9, 2009 4:25:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I am 27 years old and just found out I have stage 3 pre cancer cells ( the last stage before cancer). This really freaked me out as I have had normal paps for years and suddenly I have a slightly abnormal pap and 6 months later at a second pap I get these results. Per my doctor if I had not scheduled my follow up pap ontime I would have had a cancer diagnosis. These little cells seem to be aggressive. Thank god I don't have cancer but the treatment I have been offered is awful. I was basically given two choices I can have a hystorectomy or a cone biopsy. I having no children yet have opted for the cone biopsy. But when they explain it to me they said the cone biopsy can still stop the ability to have children depending on how you scar after surgery. Or if you do get pregnant you can have an incompetent cervix (it won't stay shut during pregnancy) and can lead to miscarriages and pre term labor. This sucks! So I stop and I think I need to let every woman know how important it is to get vaccinated, because this can be spread so easily. I thought I would be safe as I have had only 3 partners including my husband who I have been with for 4 years. So I encourage all women to get themselves, their daughters, sisters, anyone to get vaccinated, because this feeling of almost having cancer and possible not being able to have children is a feeling I wouldn't want my worst enemy to feel.

Oct 13, 2009 12:13:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

i had a low-grade resultt of my pap & i had either my colposcopy. still im waiting for the result of the biopsy..my question is, is it possible for me to still be vaccinated for hpv? pls tell me..

thanks

Nov 13, 2009 2:40:00 PM  
Anonymous Lorna said...

I'm a 23 yr old mother of three Lil girls.. a couple of months ago i found out i had a abnormal pap n immediately i was schedule for a colposcopy. when i got my results back i was told i had stage three n was to wait until i had stage 5 when it become full blown cancer this freak me out.. what was i to do i have three Lil girls under the age of 7.. i don't want my children to see me sick. she me go through chemo or any treatment.. so now am going for my second opinion i well have my biopsy result next week... i am so nervous.. n reading ur comments i wonder why i wasnt offered any treatment like LEEP... what should i do.. All i kn i will get my daughter vaccinated so they wont have to feel the way i feel.. becuase finding my results out have taking a effect on me emotionally n psychically

Nov 19, 2009 11:20:00 AM  
Anonymous Sam said...

I spent a couple of years in the States and what I saw shocked me.
The overuse and inappropriate use of pap smears harms women.
The huge number of abnormal paps are not about cancer, but are caused by screening inappropriately and excessively.
Annual smears send 95% of women for colposcopy and usually some form of biopsy, 2 yearly send 77%...
Yet smears actually only save 0.65% of women - 99.35% of women receive no benefit at all, but almost all of you will be referred with an abnormal pap.
Why?
This test is unreliable and produces large numbers of false positives, the more frequently you screen, the higher the likelihood of a false positive and unnecessary and potentially harmful treatment. The risks of over-screening and over-treatment are well know and have been for many years.
I was pleased to see your guidelines have finally been revised down, but they are still excessive in my opinion. I hear many of your doctors intend to ignore the changes and continue over-screening and harming women.
Testing women younger than 25 (and even 30) is negligent - it is well known that young women produce abnormal smears, not because they have cancer or pre-cancer, but the cervix is changing over your 20's and these normal changes are picked up as abnormal. 1 in 3 smears are abnormal in women under 25, but cancer in this age group is incredibly rare.
In older women, 1 in 14 smears are abnormal, most of these women do not have cancer and would never develop cancer.
The facts are known to many women in other countries, but are completely hidden from American and other women.
Informed consent is a legal requirement for pap smears, yet your doctors actually coerce women into testing. This is highly unethical. The linking of birth control to cancer screening cannot be justified...they are totally unrelated - this is a way of denying a woman the right to make an informed decision.
Prostate screening - men get risk information and are free to choose - yet prostate cancer affects 200,000 men a year, cervical only 11,000.
The routine gyn exams pushed in the States should be nothing more than optional. Our doctors do NOT recommend them at all, in fact, they are considered of low to poor clinical value and can be harmful. (they can even lead to unnecessary surgery)
Routine breast exams - not recommended, there is no evidence they reduce the death rate from cancer, but they lead to biopsies. Some Dr's think biopsies are a risk factor for cancer.
Routine rectal exam - never recommend in asymptomatic women.
We are offered screening 5 yearly from age 30 - no woman has more than 5-7 smears and women are free to decline screening. As a very low risk woman, the risks for me far exceeded the benefits. In the States a 65 year old woman may have had 50 smears in her lifetime and likely numerous other things - biopsies, LEEP, ultrasounds...

Feb 1, 2010 4:15:00 PM  
Anonymous Sam said...

continued....
1 in 3 of your women has had a hysterectomy! A horrifying figure....which should be the subject of an immediate independent investigation.
Finland (5-7 tests total or no screening - up to you) has the lowest rates of cervical cancer in the world and sends the fewest women for colposcopy/biopsies...sadly, that is still 55% of women, but that's the best you'll do with this unreliable test.
Anyone interested in getting to the truth will find lots of great references at Dr Joel Sherman's patient privacy blog under Women's Privacy Concerns.
My statistics come from an article by an American pathologist, Richard DeMay, "Should we abandon pap smear testing", American Jnl of Clinical Pathology, 2000 (available on-line)
Understand the small risk, the risk factors, your risk profile and protect yourself from harm - take charge of your healthcare. Don't allow doctors to accept risk on your behalf while leaving you ignorant.
Dr Angela Raffle, UK cancer screening expert puts the risk in context - 1000 women need regular screening for 35 years to save ONE woman from cervical cancer. (British Medical Journal - linked from Dr Sherman's site) Over that period, countless women are referred for harmful and unnecessary biopsies and treatment.
Over-treatment for false positives has led many women to believe this cancer is common, it's not and never was...
Good luck everyone - here's hoping for a better deal for women in your country and others in the future.

Feb 1, 2010 4:18:00 PM  

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