Vaginal Discharge: Normal or Not?
With so many women wondering if their vaginal discharge is normal, it seemed time to review the basics of "vaginal ecology". We’ll be examining the following questions:- What is normal?
- How often does it change?
- Do hormones make a difference?
- What about douching or washing?
- Does my choice of birth control have an impact?
What is "normal" vaginal discharge?
A normal discharge is made up from exfoliated vaginal skin cells, bacteria, and secretions from the cervix and vaginal walls. While as many as 30 types of bacteria can be found in normal vaginal discharge, about 95% of a healthy vaginal bacteria population consists of lactobacilli. There are several subtypes of lactobacilli, but the most important type produces hydrogen peroxide. Just like hydrogen peroxide is used to clean cuts and scrapes on the surface of external skin, the hydrogen peroxide produced by the lactobacilli helps decrease the numbers of undesirable bacteria such as E. coli, a common bowel bacteria responsible for urinary tract infections. A healthy vaginal pH is relatively acidic (pH 3.8-4.5). An acidic pH also discourages undesirable bacteria.
In one study (Mijac, 2006), women with yeast were found to have almost as many of the beneficial, hydrogen peroxide producing lactobacilli as women without infections (77% vs 80% respectively). By contrast, women with trichomoniasis had 63%, and those with bacterial vaginosis (BV) were found to have only 25.6% ! In all categories, women who smoked had fewer of the beneficial lactobacilli than nonsmokers.
Women have tried various home remedies to increase lactobacilli numbers in their vagina. Use of natural yogurt as a douche or on a tampon has been advocated. Yet studies suggest that the type of lactobacilli in yogurt lack both the hydrogen peroxide producing qualities, and an ability to cling to vaginal membranes. In a recent experiment (Larsson, 2008) women treated for BV were given 10 days of freeze dried human lactobacilli, or a placebo, as a vaginal capsule. After three months of this treatment the researchers found that the lactobacilli treatment was most effective in preventing relapse of BV in women who were initially cured using antibiotics.
Group B strep, E. Coli, and Staph aureus (normal skin bacteria) were frequently cultured in a group of 631 women, many of whom had no symptoms (Donder, 2002). In a study of 141 GYN surgical patients, Group B strep was found in the vaginal secretions of 20% (Song, 1999). This suggests that many types of bacteria can be a part of the vaginal ecology.
To summarize, normal discharge has a pH of less than 4.5, no overt malodor, a thick or clumpy appearance, and white color. These characteristics can vary over a menstrual month depending upon hormones, changes in pH, brief overgrowths of different species of normal vaginal bacteria, and exposure to semen or menstrual flow.
How often does discharge change?
Among 26 women followed for two months, only four maintained "normal" vaginal conditions. Eight had intermittent yeast ("candida") overgrowths. Nine had intermittent overgrowth of BV linked bacterias, while one other had BV all month long. Interestingly, many women complained of abnormal discharge or other signs of vaginitis, but symptoms did not correlate to lab testing (Priestly, 1997). Among a different group of 51 women, 22% maintained a "normal" vaginal environment with high levels of lactobacilli. The other 78% had significant but transient changes in their vaginal ecosystem (Schwebke, 1999).
A much larger study of 1,193 women was conducted over three years. About 20% of those women developed BV after 6-12 months. Surprisingly about 20% who had BV at the beginning of the study had no evidence of BV infection at the next follow up exam.
Such studies suggest that many bacterias and fungi (yeast) found in normal vaginal secretions can either overgrow and provoke symptoms - or can return to very low levels where they do not produce ill effects.
Do hormones make a difference in vaginal discharge?
Hormones are one variable which can change over the course of a month. We know that estrogen improves vaginal pH by increasing lactic acid production by vaginal cells. Increased levels of estrogen are also responsible for the increased amount of clear, stretchy cervical secretions seen around ovulation. After ovulation, discharge tends to become less watery and may look more like library paste in its consistency.
Conversely, in a post-menopausal woman who has low levels of estrogen, her vagina is more likely to contain gram positive cocci (e.g. staph aureus, staph epidermis, group A strep) and gram negative rods (e.g. proteus, E Coli). Her vaginal pH will be more alkaline, and there will be fewer of the beneficial lactobacilli bacteria. There will be diminished vaginal secretions, and decreased vaginal lubrication during sex. One innovative study (Gorodeski, 2005), determined that the effects of estrogen on the vaginal ecology differed depending upon the age of the vaginal tissues. This suggests that estrogen's effects work directly on vaginal cells, not just by encouraging beneficial bacteria and inducing an acidic pH.
What about douching or washing?
Douching has been linked to increased incidence of BV in many, but not all studies. One of the better studies also examined the reason for douching. It would make sense that if one had the malodorous BV discharge that douching might be tried to temporarily get rid of the smell. Of the 1200 women studied, douching for hygiene, as well as for symptoms, both shared an increased incidence of BV. While douching once a month incurred an increased risk of having BV, those who had douched within the past week had the highest risk of all. Women who douched also had decreased concentrations of the beneficial lactobacilli bacteria (Ness, 2002). More recently (Brotman, 2008), it was determined that incidence of BV could be decreased if women refrained from douching for hygiene purposes after menstruation.
Among sex workers in Kenya, women who used any type of vaginal washing (as compared to no washing) had an increased risk for HIV was present after ten years of follow up. The greatest risk was to women who used soap or other substances for cleaning the inside of the vagina rather than plain water (McClelland, 2006).
Type of external cleansing techniques (e.g. soap vs water vs antiseptics) did not predict incidence of candida (yeast) infections in 1004 women cultured for yeast (Oliveira, 1993). This suggests that external cleaning choices do not impact vaginal ecology.
Does my choice of birth control have an impact?
It should come as no surprise that the answer to this question is, "Yes, probably so." Birth control pills do not change the numbers of beneficial lactobacilli, keep the pH at about 4.4, and do not change the thickness of protective vaginal skin cells (Eschenbach, 2000). Over all the risk for BV is about 50% less in birth control pill users (Calzolari, 2000). Yet the risk for yeast infections is increased when birth control pills are used (Baeten 2001, Fosch 2006)).
Women who wear the NuvaRing have the same healthy vaginal pH as Pill users, but they may have 2-3 times more hydrogen peroxide producing lactobacilli (Vernes, 2004). One study has shown that several subtypes of vaginal yeast can adhere to the NuvaRing (Camacho, 2007), but an increased risk for yeast infections has not been reported. Should a Ring user develop yeast, use of either a cream or suppository antifungal medication does not decrease the Ring's effectiveness as a birth control method (Verhoeven, 2004).
By contrast, DepoProvera can decrease hydrogen peroxide producing bacteria within six months of use. There can also be a slight thinning of the tissues which keep vaginal pH acidic (Miller, 2000). These effects are likely related to the degree in which DepoProvera decreases estrogen levels. In some women blood estrogen levels can be depressed enough to impact bone density and vaginal symptoms - while in others blood estrogen levels remain well within the usual range.
The use of a copper IUD has been linked to increased BV in four studies. One study (Avonts, 1990), which followed women for two years, found that 50% of IUD users developed BV as compared to 20% of birth control pill users. More recently Ocak and colleagues (2007), followed IUD wearing women for three years. Similarly, it was shown that BV was more common in IUD wearers (11.7%), than in birth control pill consumers (5.9%) or women using neither method (2.9%).
When barrier methods of birth control are utilized there is a spectrum of effects on vaginal ecology. Condoms without spermicide do not change vaginal pH or bacterial parameters. Condoms may protect the vagina from any bacteria present in the ejaculate. However, use of the common spermicide nonoxynol 9 may predispose a woman to abnormal bacterial changes. When used with a diaphragm or cervical cap, this spermicide can transiently decrease lactobacilli, and increase the proportion of E. Coli, enteroccoccus, and anaerobic gram negative bacteria (Gupta, 2000).
You should now be able to make more informed choices about your own vaginal health. As always, seeing a GYN or family planning clinic will yield the most accurate diagnosis and advice.
Related Topics:
- WebMD Video: What Is Normal Vaginal Discharge?
- WebMD Video: Diagnosing Yeast Infections
- WebMD Video: Understand Douching


117 Comments:
Hi Jane,
Thank you for your post about vaginal discharge. I'm wondering if there is a link between vaginal discharge and other gynecological conditions like vulvodynia and endometriosis. Do you have any information about that?
Thanks,
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Hey ,
I had a microbiology done and my results returned as follows, can u interpret the results in english as my doctor is on vacation for the next month. Thanks
Specimen Type : HVS
Wet Prep: NO TRICHOMONAS OR YEAST CELLS
Gram Stain: SEVERAL GRAM POSITIVE COCCI, SEVERAL GRAM POSITIVE RODS (SMALL)
Culture: No significant growth
Hello,
I am having an unusual amount of vaginal odor and discharge. I haven't been sexually active for over two months, but the problem started about a month and a half ago. The problem has been consistant everyday and has not gone away. What do you suggest?
Thanks,
Jane Doe
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I have had this thick heavy discharge for 7 to 8 years and I thought something was wrong with me but I went to the doctor and had a pap and it came back perfectly normal. Would ya'll happen to know what it might be?
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Jane,
Satruday Night Live did a skit many years ago. It said that science had proved a definite link between the common cold and Kleenex.
Women douche because it smells bad and feels icky, and that is bacterial vaginosis. To say that douching causes BV is the same as saying Kleenex causes the common cold.
To say that that women who douche get more HIV really says that they have BV, which really does facilitate all STDs.
Wilfred Anderson, M.D.
I am 56, had hysterectomy at 21 for endometrosis and since then I have had an increased burning/itching and odor that i have to "Wash up" 3 times a day to stand myself!! Doctors, tests, meds - I have done them all - no one finds anything!! What could this be????
Brandy,
The odor suggests bacterial vaginosis. Hard for doctors to find, harder for them to treat.
Try this site www.bvresult.com. If you decide to get a test I will see it and offer my opinion.
W. Anderson, M.D.
I have had a group b strep infection for months that has not gone away with four courses of antibiotics, one of which was administered vaginally (called metragel). Does anyone here have any idea what can help me make this go away?
tzem
Do you have vaginal discharge, odor?
I too have been diagnosed with Group B Strep almost a year ago. My symptoms are large amounts of vaginal discharge, white and clumpy, has an odor but not fishy or musty. In the first few months, I had pain with intercourse, but that symptom has since gone away. I have taken antibiotics such as penicillin and cipro twice a day for 10 days. I have also taken diflucan as well as clindamycin and metrogel both vaginally for 10 days. I have stopped taking birth control pills (Yaz) to see if it would help, but hasn't. I wear cotton underwear, do not douche. I have a healthy diet and I have tried changing my laundry detergent and abstaining from sex all to no avail. I do not take any other medications. My doctor doesn't see the need to further treat me since she says that this does not need to be treated in non-pregnant women, but I would just really like to get rid of this- it bothers me every day since I have to change my underwear at least 3 times a day. I am so frustrated. Is there any advice you can give or anything else I can possibly do?
I too have been diagnosed with Group B Strep almost a year ago. My symptoms are large amounts of vaginal discharge, white and clumpy, has an odor but not fishy or musty. In the first few months, I had pain with intercourse, but that symptom has since gone away. I have taken antibiotics such as penicillin and cipro twice a day for 10 days. I have also taken diflucan as well as clindamycin and metrogel both vaginally for 10 days. I have stopped taking birth control pills (Yaz) to see if it would help, but hasn't. I wear cotton underwear, do not douche. I have a healthy diet and I have tried changing my laundry detergent and abstaining from sex all to no avail. I do not take any other medications. My doctor doesn't see the need to further treat me since she says that this does not need to be treated in non-pregnant women, but I would just really like to get rid of this- it bothers me every day since I have to change my underwear at least 3 times a day. Is there any advice you can give or anything else I can possibly do?
Hi, I'm Fourteen Years Old. I Am Not Sexually Active.
I Have Excess Discharge With Odor, But It's Not Fishy Or Anything.
I Also Have Pains In My Vagina, Where It Feels Like It's Ripping Or There's A Lot Of Pressure.
I Never Have A Normal Period Either.
Sometimes It Lasts From Two Days To Two Weeks. It's Always Very Very Heavy.
I Sometimes Don't Have A Period For Up to Four Months And It Never Starts Around The Same Time.
I'm Worried But I Am Not Comfortable With My Body, I Can't Even Put Tampons Up There, So I Don't Want To Have My Doctor Look Down There Unless It's Truly Neccesary..
Is This Normal?
Hi Brandy,
I also had hysterectomy at age 21. FOr a bleeding issue.. I am now 31 so ten years for me but I have all of the same symptoms 24/7! And I am told that I am fine?!? But I should douche now because mt body does not clean itself regulary anymore. I do not understand either!!
HI, I have had a vaginal staph areous infection for 2 months. Cleocin creme dosen't work, so now I am on Cipro 2 x a day. All this stuff does is make it burn. Is there something I can take to finally get rid of this?
Any help would be greatly appreciated...
Thank you, Joni
Joni
You have a yeast problem (aka fungus)(aka Candida). Not staph aureus.
Wilfred
HELP!??
I just turned 39 yesterday, and I haven't had my period since 4/06. Was told by DOC that I was in early menopause??? Nope, don't think so, as I have a very LIGHT bleeding going on since day before my birthday!? Someone told me I might have transplantational bleeding?? never heard of this before. could be pregnant,as I haven't had my period for 3+yrs. Can someone shed some light on WTF my body is doing to me right now? It is a very very light flow, clearish-red in color, like after the first few hours of your period. Did I mention that I already went through hot flashes and all that great stuff? And, my daughter is in college??? Can someone shed some light, as I sit here waiting until the morning to take a pregnancy test????
Thanks
I'm 54, gone through menopause with no period since 2005, but in the last 3 weeks I have had 4 days of a slightly darker than clear, watery discharge. It started again day before yesterday, was still watery but maybe with a darker,greenish tint. I even thought I felt a little crampy. It disappeared by last night.
I don't take hormone replacement anymore and have felt fine. Any clues what's going on?
Hi, I am 57 years old. Had a Hystorectomy at 38 bcause of heavy flow and prolonged periods. Until about 3 mos ago, I hadn't had sex for 15 yrs. The 1st time I had sex it hurt very bad and I bled. It got better, but it has been 3 wks since I had sex and 2 days ago I started a redish discharge. It is like when your finishing up a period. Anybody know what it could be.
I've had a yeast infection & now i'm having a white discharge. Its not smelly & im not itching. I just want to know is that normal & should i been having one everyday?
i know how you feel i'm been having it too but i get yeast infection but i found out you can get it back from a guy so it is ture about giving it to a guy but damn i hate it we finally got red of it now thank god
then i got uti but i finally got red of that one too now i'm discharging do you discharge and have pains before your periods before aweek before your periods coming please let me know i went to my doctor she says it normal to have that alot of discharge
i hate this i always think something wrong with i don't cheat i been with one man and we married we don't have to cheat on each other we have sex alot but who does it lol but i hope nothing wrong with me.
I'm a 22 year old and have been having hot flashes and night sweats and vaginal discharge. My vaginal discharge is white milky substance and it has no smell. It looks like cum but my friend told me females don't cum white. I don't know if that's true or not. I got tested for stds and my test results came back negative. The discharge comes out a couple seconds (about the second it takes me to pull up my pants) and I call it issues because then I'll have to pull them down and wipe my self again and it's always white never a color. Please help me and tell me what it is.
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I'm 13 and i have discharges at least once a day and it does have a smell but it doesn't burn or itch..i wouldn't even know it was happening if i didn't see it. i am afraid to talk to my doctor because i am afraid she will have to look down there and i don't want her to unless its truly necessary. any idea what i might have?
I'll provide a bit of history first...recently I was house sitting and received a great deal of flea bites. After leaving the residence I noticed that I had a burning sensation when I peed and then wiped. This has never occurred before. I went and took a look and found that I have a, what looks like a canker sore on my inner labia just below and off to one side of the clitoris. Beside that, directly below the clitoris the skin has a patch of white. It has been a few days and now I am having very little vaginal discharge.
I also have PCOS and have had for over 10 years. Could this be related to PCOS and hormones? Could I have been bitten by a flea? (I find that to be unlikely, maybe just a coincidence).
I have a dr appt scheduled for July 29th, but am very anxious in the meantime. Any suggestions?
Any of the young girls on here who are worried about going to the doctor should definitely go! Talk to your parents or someone older you can trust (teacher, sister, relative, old babysitter) and find out who they recommend. Letting an irritation go on too long can end up hurting you more in the long run, and get worse. When you think about it, it's much better to go with these symptoms rather than let them get worse and end up having to take more medicine or have treatments that could end up being even more uncomfortable. If you find the right doctor, the experience can be more comfortable than you would think. But it is never good to let any medical condition further without the help of a professional. They see these things all the time, and it could be fixed as simply as cleaning with the right products!
I'm 48 and post-menopausal (haven't menstruated since my early 20s). I've had a watery dark brown discharge that has an amonia smell at least 3 yrs now. My doctor always says there's no odor during exams. My paps have been mostly normal. I've also had pelvic ultrasounds which do not show anything major. A year ago, my doctor told me the pap showed HPV. I've had three paps since and they've been normal, however; the discharge is constant to the point that I have to wear a pantyliner everyday. Over the years, I've taken the usual antibiotics and used vaginal creams and the problem would go away; but recently the prescriptions only slightly lessen the problem, not elimiate it. I haven't had intercourse in 5 yrs. and don't think I ever will again if I can't get rid of this embarrassing problem. Hope SOMEONE out there can point me in the right direction.
Hi!
Just recently had a total hysterectomy. Ten days to be exact. Is it normal to have discharge now? I am hormone replacement patch. I also feel a lot of pings and pangs above my incision site that is very tender to touch kinda feels like im swelling in the inside is that normal. Anyone that can...please shed some insight to the healing process I just dont know what to do or expect never had any kind of surgery until now! I can't stand just sitting around so I have been walking. I cant sleep because I sleep on my stomach soooooooooo I really would like some help with that issue. I cant drive Ugh..............it's all almost unbearable for me. PLEASE HELP =(.
I am 27 years old and for the past 3 years I have been egtting a white milky discharge. I have been to the doctor and tested for STD's and other possible causes such as yeat infections. There is absolutely no smell to the discharge, and no itching or burning, but it is a bit annoying. it seems to go away a few days before my period but comes back after. I am assuming this is a normal discharge....any body know??
KTL
Your discharge is not normal.
60% probable yeast overgrowth, 40% probable bacterial vaginosis, and possibly both.
There are only a few doctors that can reliably diagnosis either one well.
Try over the counter generic Monostat for yeast and see what happens.
i am 25 yrs old and i have been with the same woman for 5 yrs now, she has also only been with me during this time. a few years ago i was tested for everything under the sun(my doc. never told me exactly which tests she just said all of them) anyway while we were being intimate i started getting a very painful burning sensation, when we were done i went to the bathroom and while the burning had stopped there was blood left on the tp when i wiped. this prompted me to look down there and i saw something red. i asked my girlfriend to look since it's an akward position and she says it looks like a hanging piece of skin. i never had this before but it scared me...i looked it up but everything says herpes, i don't understand how that could be possible so i was hoping someone could help with this. i do have discharge but it's clear until right before my periods and my cycles are progressivley more painful and the flow is heavier. i do want to mention that there is NO penetration during our sex, we are lesbians and do not use anything that would go inside. please help me figure out what this is so i can stop freaking about this. also i was told i have abnormal cells, could that be a link as well?
hi
the doctors said i have vaginal bacteria but i have no iching or burning .but am worried about my boyfreind .we have unprotected sex and am afraid that he has it is that possible i really need to know am afrraid.
I'm 43 and stopped taking the pill this summer after having taken it on and off since I was 18. The first thing I noticed was a thick discharge that comes and goes-- I stopped worrying as it's not painful or itchy and seems to be related to my cycle. However, I've noticed the last 2-3 weeks that my underpants smell terrible. Even though I'm not noticing any discharge, something smells really bad, as though I'm not changing my underwear every day (but I AM!). I don't have any symptoms, but the smell is embarrassing. What could this be? Does it have something to do with going off the pill?
I am 15. I have this watery dark brown discharge. I use tampons. I have never had sex. I have only had my period for maybe a year or two. What is wrong with me????
-confused emily
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Hi, I have had vaginal discharge and odor for the last 9 years. I've had pap smears, and they come back normal. Its everyday that i go through this. Can you please tell me what to do?
"I have had vaginal discharge and odor for the last 9 years."
You need a test for bacterial vaginosis; in particuliar you need a "wet prep". Ask if they have done that.
UM HEY!!!!
This is Lucy ok so I've been doing my online research and I'm pretty sure I have BV. I want to go the all natural route but the idea of sticking a tampon of hydrogen peroxide and yogurt in my... self it a bit unsettling, however I am prepared to do just that if it is wat will cure me. I just wanted to know from past experience and actual since medical concern (not just some doctor trying to protect his/ her cash cow) is this idea possibly dangerous to my vag?
Thanx in advance
I am 23 years old...I have a 6 month old little boy. I am engaged to a great guy...I got an IUD after having my son...here lately, like the day after my guy and I do the deed I get this discharge that is like water. I feel a rush and then my panties are soaked...I think it has a sharp smell...though others can not smell me...I have asked....what could this be?
Hi im 35 about three mos ago soap got in my vagina sent then i being having a fishy odor went the doc she did pap exam she toldme there were no signs of bv infection or yeast infection but i have this odor that is so nocticable.i made a appt with a ob gyn she test me and said that same thing that there was no sign of any infection at all. do anyone think the soap that got and my vagina is causing the smell what can i do to get my vagina back to normal please so help me the doctor can't help.
Go to www.bvresult.com for the definitive test for your fishy odor, and the medical advice is free. I doubt that your doctors even tested you for BV since they think it's almost normal, or just the curse of being a female.
Hey. I'm Katie and i'm 15. Tje last time I had my period was June of this year and I haven't had it since. I have vaginal discharge and I smells gross and looks like it can't be a good thing. My sister says its normal around the time of your period but I don't think its supposed to be like that. I've never had sex and I'm really embarrassed about the bad odor. HELP!
Help Trish,
When my boyfriend and I got to gether I didnt get very wet sex felt grate now that we have been together for some time now I get too wet is something wrong with me ?
Hi, I have had vaginal discharge for a long time like before I had gotten my period. I'm 19 now and still having it which makes me worried I have gotten papa and doctors have said nothing of it. It's a problem I want to find out about.
Hey! It's been about 1 1/2 weeks after my menstrual cycle, and I have what looks like dried blood coming from my private area. Is it serious?
i'm having a white discharge. Its not smelly & im not itching. I just want to know is that normal & should i been having one everyday?
3 years ago I've had surgery for my appendix and took antibiotics. After a while i started having vaginal discharge. I thought it was normal but i am wondering is it normal to have it everyday?
Thanks! I am a girl whose puberty came late, and hav e only had about5 periods and I'm a sophmore in highschool! I was a bit worried about my clear discharge, and your post helped me see that its normal and nothing to worry about, Thanks!
About 6 years ago I had a Ectopic pregnancy, the a little over two years ago I had a c-section. the doctor said that I would have pain for the rast of my life because of the scar tissue smooshing my arterie, in my stomach. but for the last 4 months the pain has be a lot worse, and the doctors at the free clinic said I was had a little heart attack when I was there, and there is blood in my urine everytime the test me for like the last 3 1/2 months. my legs go numb all the time, and every month when i start my period for the first day I can't get up to do anything I sit there in so much pain in my inside right thigh that i can't move the only thing that makes it a little better is a heating pad on the spot. And when they did my pap test they said I have bv but that will not do this, there is also mucus looking vaginal discharge. Dose anyone have any help for me?
Jennifer
Since we know you have 2 infections, bacterial vaginosis, and ureaplasma(that accompanies every BV infection), why not treat them with Metronidazole 500mg twice/day for 7 days, and tetracycline (not doxycycline) 500mg 4/day for 7 days, from your doctor? That will eliminate the infection part, and more than likely eliminate your problem.
They are right to tell you that BV doesn't general cause this type proplem, but I'm sure you have other infections, probably chronic and too high in your reproductive tract to sample from your cervix, that are causing lymph nodes to swell and press against nerves to you legs.
These same infections long ago caused the scar in your fallopian tube that caught the egg that lead to your ectopic pregnancy.
Wilfred
I need help,
i have had BV every month when I get my period for almsot 2 and a half years. About nine months ago i started experiencing ovarian pain, and then the pain moved to the uterus and falopian tubes, It seems to have traveled in that whole area and its a dull pain that comes and goes, for the last few days its been much worse. I've seen 2 docters and both know of my problems and they wont give me an explanation or run any tests. I'm scared and very frusterated. I'm 18.please get back to me
Thank you
Prinzessin.Kaylan
I will help you resolve this problem, but no person has ever responded to my post here. You will have to send a message to bvresult@gmail.com and request assistance, then I will explain and solve your problem with your physician's help, since you will still need prescription medications.
Wilfred Anderson, M.D.
I typically have heavy irregular periods that last 7-9 days. Lots of heavy bleeding, cramps etc.
I haven't had a period for two months except for some very dark almost black blood that lasts for a half of a day, then turns lighter then is gone by the second day. I'm 38 and have had my tubes tied now for 14 years.
Any suggestions.
I have never had a problem with discharge until a few months ago It is brownish, very Thick before my period and afterwards (up until as many as a week or 2 later)I am producing a almost black discharge. Its not everytime I go to the restroom, but enough to make me worry. It also has a very strong odor. Should I be worried?
From: Young-n-Naive,
Ok, So I'm 19 and im premenapausal...I know, sounds odd and trust me it is. But I am on Lybrel because my doctor is trying to balance out my hormones to avoid osteoporosis. I've been taking it for about one year but lately I have been having a thick (sometimes clear/sometimes brown) discharge that comes out all at one time a few days a week. it's not every day and its not a constant flow. I do have sex and these discharges usually follow after I do. Are these normal?
About 4 weeks ago, I had unprotected sex; he did not ejaculate at all inside my vagina or anywhere near my vaginal region (to my knowledge). I started my birth control the very next day. I have not had any problems at all. My period started today, and I began to have cramps this evening. While going to the bathroom I found a piece of thick, dark red & white, not really but almost skin-like discharge. I do not think it's a pregnancy but I've had many cases of irregular cells on my cervix and been told I have a 50% of getting cervical cancer. Should I be worried and get to my gyno ASAP? Or can I wait till my next appointment?
oh, btw. you can contact me at pudnhd913@yahoo.com
(i had the tissue like discharge and irregular cells)
To the person with the tissue like discharge. I think you should definitely see your doctor anytime you have a question or concern about your health. No one should leave these concerns up to someone blogging answers at them when that person clearly doesnt know all the pertinent information (Im talking about Wilfred, you should shut up!). I will tell you that I have had the same tissue like discharge before and I freaked out about it, but after taking a picture of it(I told you I was worried) and taking it to my doctor, he said it was actually normal and that it was just my body shedding the lining of my cervix. He also said though it doesnt always come in pieces that large, it was common for it to happen. I still think you should speak to your doctor though. Thank you.
Dear Anonymous,
I had decided that none of you were reading my posts.
Thanks for letting me know you've seen them.
Wilfred
thank you for this blog and very nice and productive comments
here is a blog about women health and tubal reversal
http://www.mybabydoc.com/blog/
tubal reversal
I have a problem. I havent had my period in the month of November, i took 2 pregnancy tests.. it both came out negative. I am on Birth Control. Ive had terrible itching, and burning and discomfort during intercourse. Most of the time me and my boyfriend would have unprotected sex. Could this be an STD? or infection?
Angeline,
As a general rule, green discharge means trichomonas. The classic but seldom seen textbook description is a green and frothy discharge. It certainly means you need a wet prep at your doctor's office. You also have the pain and irritation.
Wilfred
is it 100% that i have trichomonas? could i have an yeast infection or another infection?
I was planning to go to planned parenthood tommorrow, will i get treated there?
Angeline,
Not 100%, just a good chance from your history only. Planned Parenthood will solve the problem. Just make sure they do a "wet prep".
Wilfred
I am a 62 year old woman who has recently started using VagiFem because of vaginal atrophy and dryness. After 5 days I have a dark discharge with no odor. Is this normal and should I continue with the therapy?
I've been having a milky white discharge that has a vinegar-ish odor to it (odor is not strong until intercourse). It's been two weeks since the start of my last period. Do I have reason to be concerned?
Is it normal that I have no discharge? I only have discharge when I drink cranberry juice.
This is too easy.
If you have a discharge when you drink cranberry juice, then don't drink cranberry juice.
(Serious) We need more information about your discharge.
After your period, smell, itch, color, cheezy?
Wilfred
Dear DR.
I have had this chlorine smelling discharge amd my vagina lips are itching sooo bad that the itch gets me up in the middle of the night.I have excema behind my ears and asked my DR if this could travel to my vagina.He diagnosed my symtoms as vaginitis and gave me cream but nothing helps this itching or discharge.
Anonymous
What was the name of the cream from your doctor?
Itching that bad is usually yeast, and the smell suggests bacterial vaginosis (BV), together. The smell of BV is usually described as "fishy".
Approximately how old are you and how many sex partners lately?
Wilfred
I had my annual pap and they found BV. I did the Metronidazole once a day for 5 days and the irritation went away. About 3 days after finishing the med. I started to get this clumpy white cheesy dishcarge at random times, not all the time and it would be big globs of it. There is no odor to the discharge, and it seems to have stopped, for the last few days at least. Is this possibly from the medecine or would it be another infection or even possibly an STD?? I have slight abdomen pain, but nothing serious!
Thank you!
White cheesy discharge is the classic description of a yeast (fungus) overgrowth (it's not an infection), an almost standard occurrence after treatment for BV.
Here’s what happened.
Normally you have (lactobacillus) bacteria in your vagina that produce acid and compete with the fungus for food, and that’s how your vagina controls the fungus.
When you got BV, it killed the lactobacilli. Then the metronidazole killed the BV, and the fungus was left without competition and overgrew. Use an over-the-counter vaginal yeast treatment.
BV is really an STD, but your doctor, actually all doctors, don’t know how to treat the men to keep it from coming back to you. Metronidazole given to men doesn’t prevent female reinfection.
If you want to know how the men should be treated, you will have to e-mail me at bvresult@gmail.com. I will send the protocol to your physician (at no charge), who may or may not wish to use it.
I'm sure you were told that it occurs naturally, and it's not an STD.
Wilfred
I HAVE A HEAVY, CREAMY PALE YELLOW DISCHARGE. KIND OF SWEET SMELLING BUT MUSTY AT THE SAME TIME! I HAVE VAGINAL ITCHING AND SOME ABDOMINAL PAIN. I HAVE BEEN TREATED FOR BV AND A YEAST INFECTION AND IT CALMS FOR A WEEK OR SO AND THEN STARTS ALL OVER AGAIN. SEX IS PAINFUL AND I FEEL DRY BUT HAVE ALOT OF DISCHARGE. NOT SURE WHAT'S GOING ON! ONLY 1 PARTNER IN THE LAST YEAR! ANY IDEAS?
i just recently started having a small bit of brown vaginal discharge. is that a normal color? i looked it up as a symptom and keep getting pelvic inflammatory disease, but i have none of the other symptoms. i've also been getting hits for an STD, but i'm not sexually active, nor have i ever been. i just want to know if there is there something wrong?
In general, a brown vaginal discharge is old blood. You are probably bleeding from your uterus just a few drops a day. This may be an extremely light period, or bleeding between your periods. Or you may be bleeding lightly from your cervix that has been affected by yeast (which is not an STD) or a disease process that causes cervicitis (an inflammed cervix), such as trichomonas.
Wilfred
Here's a question for you. Is there such a thing as too much secretion? I feel like I am a leaky faucet. I just want to make sure that there is nothing abnormal about that. I found a lot of other useful information in your post. Thanks for sharing!
Elizabeth,
A leaky faucet is not normal or acceptable.
How old are you?
Do you use tampons or pads every day? How many?
Are you sure it's not urine?
Have you been tested for bacterial vaginosis?
Wilfred
question! how exactly do i get ahold of Wilfred on here? have a major question and have left it on here once before to no avail!
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I have a clear gel like discharge with no odor, burning, itching. Is this a norml or is it sign of a another possible issue.
Dear "clear gel like discharge with no odor, burning, itching".
Your situation doesn't match any textbook description. My “wild guess without a wet prep” is that you have a little irritation causing a little mucous increase in your vagina, probably caused by a little yeast overgrowth.
Where I come from, we live on “wet preps” (look at vaginal secretion under a microscope – takes 1 minute), and my general rule of thumb (are you ready?):
If the same thing was dripping out of your nose, would you think it was normal?
That’s a little unfair since we have a master wet prep reader (me).
The bottom line is that you are concerned, so I see 2 options, either or both:
1. Since it’s not serious, wait until after your next period. Bacterial vaginosis, trichomonas, and yeast tend to get worse then. Also, a little yeast might go away.
2. Go see your doctor or Planned Parenthood, but ask before you go if they will do a wet prep. Most don’t.
Wilfred
I just recently began having a milky brown vaginal discharge when i wake up accompanied by slight pelvic cramps. This is all a few days before my expected period. Is this normal?
That brown color is degraded blood that has been sitting in your vagina for several hours. With cramping, that's probably a very light period.
I hear that such variations sometimes occur when you get pregnant and the first period (that you should miss) is due.
Are you on birth control?
Wilfred
o and to add to the comment above there is no smell or an itch to go along with the discharge.
no i am not on birth control
Hello. I am 35, and was diagnosed with mittelschmerz a few years ago. I sometimes have the pain in my ovaries, along with the discharge. Yet during the past two ovulations, my very thick discharge has smelled somewhat like vinegar. I have no burning or itching with these symptoms. Any ideas that can cause this or any idea as what this is a symptom of would be appreciated! Thanks!
I am 29 yrs old. I am on my last day of antibiotics for a kidney infection. I went to the ER this past saturday because the pain I felt in my kidney was so intense, after tests and an exray, I was diagnosed with a mild case of pancreatitis, and not a kidney infection at all. My urine sample was clear and no signs of a yeast infection or uti. I was told to finish the antibiotics, 2 pills left on that and I'm done. The pain in my kidney is same as gone. However, today I noticed an unusual discharge. It was a tacky gel like material a little yellowish mint green in color, no odor that I could tell, no burning or itching at anytime. I have only one sex partner, and he is terrified of contracting STDs so he is faithful as well. I have not had a period since early 2009, probably because I have an IUD (merana Spelling?). I know it has a hormone in it. I am unable to return to the doctor at this time do to weather, and my phone is also down, so I turn to you. If you could please help me understand what I might be experiencing, I would greatly appreciate it. Also there might be more information that you might need and I haven't thought to mention. If you would like you can contact me directly as well at t08174l@yahoo.com tho I know you must also post here to help others that might possibly have the same issue. Please help, and Thank you.
Roxi,
A little more info please.
Exactly what antibiotics?
Why did you say you were treated for a kidney infection? Did you have symptoms other that pain in your side? Was the urine test negative?
About your diagnosis of pancreatitis; what's your height and weight? Alcohol use?
Wilfred
I would like to say first that I have not had anymore of that tacky gel like yellowish mint green discharge since. Maybe it wasn't anything to worry about afterall. However, here is the information you asked for.
Antibiotics: sulfamethoxazole/tmp
I was treated with the above antibiotic for a kidney infection, symptoms were not really a burning urnination but an aching, and the pain in my kidney area. The aching urnination started first and the pain in my kidney was hardly noticable but it was there. My doctor started me on that antibiotic, for what he thought was a kidney infection. When I went to the ER later (just 3 days after starting the meds) my urine was tested and it was clear, no sign of kidney infection, no UTI, no yeast infection, nothing, the doctor told me it was clear.
Pancreatitis: this is what the doctor in the ER diagnosed me with, said it was a mild case. I do not drink alcohol very often I might have a glass of wine sometimes twice a year, but I don't care for alcohol so I don't drink. I'm 5'2" and 270#
Diabetes is very common on both sides of my family, my father has a severe case of it, tho I have never been diagnosed with it.So this pancreatitis worries me some as well.
I have had 4 c-sections, my gallbladder removed, my appendix removed, an ovarian cyst removed and a pilonidal cyst removed.
Let me know if there is anymore information that you might need. Thank you for your quick response.
Roxi,
It looks like the antibiotic TMP/SMX set off a mild and limited yeast overgrowth, but we are not hardly finished. Several points still concern me; a few more questions.
1. Was there ever an abnormal urine test? (at the first doctor?)
2. Why did you go to the ER 3 days after you started the antibiotic? I assume you still had the pain.
3. Did anybody actually look inside your vagina?
Wilfred
No, there was never an abnormal urine test with the first doctor. I did not see the first doctor, I called in my symptoms, rather than setting up an appointment the nurse in his office called me back to tell me that the doctor had called in the antibiotic at a local pharmacy.
I went to the ER 3 days after starting the antibiotics because the hardly noticable pain that I had originally felt in my kidney had intensified to the point that I couldn't do anything anymore,sitting up hurt, laying down hurt, walking hurt, holding my kids hurt. On a scale of 1 - 10 (10 being worst pain of my life)the pain was greater than a 10, my blood pressure was 185/101, so my husband took me to the ER.
At the ER there were tests, Urine and blood and an exray. They did not look inside my vagina, because the urine sample was clear and I was no longer having an aching urination, nor had I had the burning or itching that usually accompanies the painful urination.
Sorry for the delay in getting back to you, but thank you for your quick response.
Roxi
Roxi,
First I need to say that your doctors have responded correctly and your problem has been resolved to the satisfaction of standard medical care. We do things a little different, and I see 2 flashing red lights:
First rule violation, I don't think that your kidney infection just showed up out of nowhere. It's an extension of a bladder infection, and bladder infections in uncompromised reproductive age females are an extension of a problem in the vagina. Every otherwise normal female we’ve every seen with a bladder infection had 2 vaginal diseases every time, bacterial vaginosis and ureaplasma urelyticum.
Second rule violation: antibiotics don’t kill the normal bacteria in the vagina, so any change when you take antibiotics means that the vagina in not normal in the first place.
You need a vaginal examination. In particular, my favorite, a “wet prep”.
I will communicate with you about your pancreatitis on your private e-mail, since this is a vaginal blog.
Wilfred
Thank you.
Roxi
i'm 14 yrs old and i have a whiteish yellowish discharge and it does smell. i have none of the other symptoms i don't burn or itch just the discharge. i went to the doctor and she said that it was prefectly normal to have a discharge but im still worried is it normal to have a discharge everyday? and is there anything i could do to make it go away?
Dear "whiteish yellowish discharge with smell",
That ain't normal.
Did your doctor do any tests?
Did you tell your doctor you were sexual active?
Wilfred
I am just wondering? I am a healthy 25 year old mom of a 3 year old. ok I am having an unusual amount of vaginal discharge. Its kinda smells but not like fishy or musky. My vaginal area doesnt itch nor does it burn when I urinate. It started about two weeks ago. But I am about a week late on my period. And I am anemic. I just need to know if that is normal or could it be something else? If you can help me out that would be appreciated.
Thanks again!
Oh but there is one thing I did leave out... My discharge is kinda yellowish.
Sorry about that. Thanks! Maria!
I have vaginal staph and have been treating for over a year with ofloxacin, cipro and cefotaxim. it keeps recurring. what do I do?
Maria,
Sorry I took so long. I wrote a general page for you (and everybody) as a starting point.
www.bvresult.com/cf.aspx
Can you open it OK?
Copy and paste to the address bar.
If anyone can't, I'll put the whole page here or e-mail it to you.
Wilfred
"Anonymous with vaginal staph",
Staph in your vagina is not a disease. If they culture the back of your hand (or your boyfriend's, or anybody's boyfriend or girlfriend) they will find it there too. That's why you can't get rid of it, and there is no need to get rid of it, since it doesn't cause a problem in the vagina (or mouth, etc). It only causes a problem if it gets into an area that needs to be sterile, like your bloodsteam or a cut on your skin.
Your vagina was never meant to be sterile. It would have to be hermetically sealed, like your bloodstream, and then you couldn't have sex, and your family and the species would die out, or you never would have been born in the first place.
Why are you being tested and treated so much? or at all?
Wilfred
I have a different consistency discharge almost every day. One day it will be very thin and liquidy and white, another day it will be very thick and white, and some days it will be thin. Most of the time there is a sour or acidic odor and I have itching on the outside of my vagina. I'm not sure what this may be, as I had a pap smear about 5 months ago and it came back normal, should I go for another pap or go to my doctor? The smell bothers me.
I am 43 yo with otherwise unremarkable periods. Saturday woke up with spotting, but stopped. At 3 pm while driving had bloody discharge (more than the "safety" pad could handle) leaking onto the leather seat. At 3:10 while pulled over had large "Woosh" expulsion consisting of more than a handful of connected lobular tissue plus approx 1 cup of blood. No pain, no warning. Within 90 minutes had another Woosh. Less than before, but still really scary. No pain, no lightheadedness. Made it home and no further expulsions. On call doc would not speculate. Interested in TVUS to diagnose - is that correct? Thinking ruptured something. Ideas?
My first impression is a miscarriage with sound effects. Apparently you haven't done a pregnancy test. It's time.
Wilfred
Pregnancy biologically impossible. Last intercourse was 12/20, last period was 12/28-1/1.
Invest in a pregnancy test anyway, just to rule out the most likely cause. There is no better explanation. And let's hope it's a miscarriage, because any alternative can't be good.
Wilfred
I need help with advice or medical knowledge because I am loosing my sexual confidence at a rapid pace. I am 30 years old and have been married for 5 1/2 years and I was a virgin until we met 6 years ago. He is a solider and has been deployed most of our time together. We are only able to spend about 4 to 6 weeks out of a year together and that is at 2 week intervals. Our first year together he was home the whole time and our sex life was wonderful. We could have sex once or sometimes twice a day with no problems. Not to mention he was truely out to please me with all rules broken. But after his first deployments things changed and our sex was different. No its not because of something like him or me cheating on each other but it changed for some reason. Anyways it seems like our sex life has lost it same steam. Now during sex I loose my natural lubrication and we are unable to finish with sex because I can't stay lubricated long enough for him to reach his ejaculation. I have a few small and I mean small orgasims but nothing major. I feel like his interest in me has changed and his desire to please me has lessened which may be why I can't stay wet. But is there any reason for this decrease in my natural lubrication during sex because it is wearing down our sex life and my sexual confidence.
I'm the soldiers wife and i forgot to add that we have a beautiful 18 month old daughter and the problem started before I ever got pregnant.
I am 27 years old and i've had a tubal ligation. about a year or so after my periods became so heavy on the first and second day that i can't leave my home. i use super plus tampons and pads to protect my clothing but still bleed through within ten to twenty minutes of a change. my doctor told me this was fine and that i should only be worried if i stopped bleeding. i don't see how this is ok. i'm weak and very fatigue for the duration of my period.
no i didn't get any test done because the doctor said it was normal so i didn't think i needed any tests done. and im not sexually active. and i just want to know if there is anything i could be doing to reduse or improve the promblem.
Can I contract vaginal e-coli from oral sex with my husband?
My husband will use his finger and tongue, without penetration. Could this be a cause of my infection or is it something more serious.
LMD68,
E-coli does not cause disease in the vagina any more than it causes disease in the rectum.
If you have a disease in your vagina it is bacterial vaginosis(BV). Anyone that cultures your vagina for e-coli is scaming you. It's really close to the e-coli source, they always get in there, and it's harmless in you vagina.
Don't worry about fingers and tongues. Worry about doctors that can't find and treat your BV, then tell you it's e-coli.
Wilfred
Hi,
I hope you can help. I have clear gel like dishcharge after I pee. Also during the day I seem to be wet, when I look at my panty it sometimes looks as if its only watery and sometimes like a slightly yellow discharge. There is no smell. I am not sure what this is. I have had the gel like substance happen before for a few days then it stopped. Can you help? Thanks
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